The letter posted on Israeli journalist Amit Segal channel to 184,000 followers says that “the nation of Israel will stand up bravery to strike at its enemies,” according to a translation of the Hebrew. It goes on to justify targeting sites even “when the enemy hides behind a human shield.”

  • @hogunner@lemmy.world
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    1032 years ago

    Fuck anyone who uses religion to excuse murder. The world would be a better place without your “gods”.

  • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s important to acknowledge that these rabbis are fucking assholes and also that quite a few rabbis didn’t sign this letter (it was signed by dozens of rabbis, which isn’t a very large proportion). Religious leaders are people just like the rest of us and while they usually contain a larger proportion of empathic and “good” people… that certainly isn’t a universal rule (Source: grew up in Boston in the 90s).

    I hope their congregations see them for the assholes they are and kick them to the fucking curb.

    • @filister@lemmy.world
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      62 years ago

      Yes, I read a report of a rabbi asking Biden for a ceasefire. This only comes to prove that we should try not to generalise people and that there are rotten apples in every nation!

      • @Not_mikey@lemmy.world
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        52 years ago

        That’s asymmetric warfare for you, if hamas operated like Israel and had bases out in the open they’d be annihilated in a week. Israel would probably do the same if hamas had overwhelming air superiority.

        Most Palestinians don’t support Hamas but most do support armed resistance, mostly because every other form of resistance has been taken away from them. That’s why they were voted in in 2006, and if Israel does succeed then whoever takes over after will probably just as militant, unless Israel gives them some other way to effectively protest mosque raids and west bank settlements.

  • @atk007@lemmy.world
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    362 years ago

    Israel hates hospitals and wants to bomb them. US supports Israel because fuck healthcare.

  • @Wrench@lemmy.world
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    142 years ago

    Newsweek is getting to the front page way too fucking much. And the community is eating it up like it’s a reliable source.

  • @febra@lemmy.world
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    122 years ago

    Another religion of peace. Judaism. Why are all abrahamic religions such a scourge on this planet?

    • @atk007@lemmy.world
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      Well dharmic religions aren’t peachy either. Have you seen what Buddhists are doing to Rohingya in Myanmar? They just lack Israel’s military might but they are on par in terms of brutality.

    • @kmaismith@lemm.ee
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      42 years ago

      As i understood it from the reading of the bible, the god of Moses and Abraham is kind of a violent prick, this is all well in alignment with biblical old testament god; just lay waste to anyone who has slighted Yahweh’s chosen people. To answer somewhat literally: To be disgusted by this you must first reject that narrative which is currently taught as foundational to the bible

  • @Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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    -72 years ago

    If there really is a military command center built beneath a hospital? Yeah, sure. And you should blame the people who put it there.

  • dumdum666
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    -102 years ago

    It is really weird to see some of the commentators get riled up about the Hamas Israel war, while being completely UNTOUCHED for instance by the war in Syria.

    What exactly makes the Hamas Israel war different for you?

    Is it, because it flamed up just recently?

    Is it, because you are personally involved somehow because of friends / family?

    Have you always had strong beliefs for/against Israel?

    Something else?

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        I am honestly interested what makes this war different.

        • TinyPizzaOP
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          You want to know the difference between a (arab spring) civil war against a self imposed monarchy and a campaign of retribution genocide that is attempting to push an enclosed majority civilian population into a neighboring country under threat of annihilation?

  • dumdum666
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    -202 years ago

    @TinyPizza

    You always talk about Geneva Conventions / International Humanitarian Law: If someone hides behind civilians, even in hospitals, then that building is a legitimate target. This IS actual International Humanitarian Law.

    Even if you don’t like it.

    • @Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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      142 years ago

      And you are on almost every single post saying some of the most deranged shit on all of Lemmy about this conflict.

      Every day I know I’m going to see something from you that is going to up the ante on justifying human suffering so you can get your rocks off.

      • dumdum666
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        -182 years ago

        Then block me - it is as easy as that to stay in your echo chamber.

        You conveniently forget that Hamas brought all those deaths on the Palestinian civilians. Hamas NEEDS all those pictures and videos of dead civilians, so they chose to put their launch sites/storages/command centers in or near civilian buildings - and of course they dress like civilians.

        You seem to know exactly what a morally upright person like yourself would do, if it was in Israel’s shoes. So tell us: What would YOU personally do, to stop the still constant terror attacks by Hamas and also to free the hostages?

        • TinyPizzaOP
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          Someone call @dumdum666 a whaaa-mbulance, so he can go get all that pro-genocide crying checked out. Please do make sure to consult which hospital is a safe/non-military target before the driver leaves though. Otherwise things could get awkward…

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            … writes the armchair activist, probably from an US american suburb, that condones Hamas Terror attacks against civilians, as long as they are Israelis.

            So maybe you should come to the Hospital as well?

            • TinyPizzaOP
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              62 years ago

              We don’t use the hospital here for different reasons. If I’m an armchair activist then what are you?

              • dumdum666
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                What I am? Someone that is quite intolerant of Intolerance and Hate. Of which you are spreading quite a lot.

                • TinyPizzaOP
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                  62 years ago

                  I’m not the one excusing civilian murders pal. How am I spreading hate?

                • @filister@lemmy.world
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                  22 years ago

                  Maybe you should also check your karma, speaking lots who’s the more sane human being in this case. A bit of self reflection would do wonders.

        • @filister@lemmy.world
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          Why don’t you try to put yourself in the shoes of a regular Palestinian for a change. Living in a makeshift tent with 20 more people, having to struggle each day to find water and food and every day this challenge becomes more difficult. Knowing perfectly well that every day can be your last day. Not having access to electricity and the Internet. Your kids traumatised asking you when all this bombing would stop and unable to give them an answer. Every day some of your friends, and acquaintances are dying or are being injured. You lost the roof over your head, your house has been destroyed by Israelian bombardment, with all your belongings lost, apart of one suitcase for you, your life and the children.

          So honestly tell me, would you still defend Israel in this case? Because if you say yes, you would only prove what a hypocrite you are! Because there isn’t a single human being on this planet who won’t feel utterly miserable and desperate!

        • @ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          If both sides are interested in stopping the shit they’ll both support a ceasefire. How do governments communicate again? I always forget

    • TinyPizzaOP
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      52 years ago

      from the article:

      Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, told the outlet Democracy Now in an article published on Monday that in the 16 years he had worked on and off at Al-Shifa hospital, he had seen no evidence that it was a Hamas command center.
      He said that if as Israel claims, it is a mixed military-civilian target, “the civilian precautions take priority over the military. So, in accordance with the Geneva Convention, you can’t bomb hospitals, unless they have very clear military functions.”

      I just call things murder and war crimes. As @Riccosuave pointed out, you seem much more concerned with trying to justify these actions. Please do let the doctor in that hospital know as well so he can plan his (military?) funeral accordingly.

          • dumdum666
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            Maybe you should begin by helping yourself? My little hatemonger 😘

            • TinyPizzaOP
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              I already told you I go to therapy. I’m unashamed for that as anyone should be.

              I like that you’ve given me a pet name but it just feels forced and inorganic. Like if we went to a party together and you said it, I don’t know if I would get that your talking to me. Can we workshop it and then we’ll do yours?

    • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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      02 years ago

      That applies if it is two nations engaged at war. Israel is at war with the terrorist group Hamas, not the state of Palestine.