Health experts think low tobacco prices, a general tolerance of smoking and changes brought by the pandemic may explain the uptick in cigarette use.
I met this 18 yo girl who smoked not so long ago. Like really? How does one even get started these days?
It’s pretty easy. Smoking never really stopped in Germany. Vending machines are everywhere. They require age verification, which is not hard to bypass.
We got rid of indoor smoking, but we still accept that people smoke.
18 is good. In my previous neighbourhood I lived next to a school. A bunch of 14 year olds with smoke under the supervision of their teachers just outside the gates during recess.
There’s no culture of smoking suppression in Germany. You’ll see behaviours treated as normal that would trigger an emergency meeting elsewhere.
its pretty common to have school kids 15+ start smoking. and it’s easy for them. cigarettes are presented in vending machines everywhere or sold by unbothered vendors.
Single use vapes seem to be everywhere these days here in Germany. Plus they have been advertised by influencers at the beginning of the pandemic, directly to underage children. Glad they forbid that at the beginning of 2021.
Interesting and appalling, which Influencers did that?
I don’t follow them, so can’t give the names. The problem continues because now they just use them in a stylish way without directly advertising them. Here is a article about swiss influencers. In Switzerland is is still legal it seems.
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Smoking is such as disgusting habit and I could never imagine having a smoker as my partner.
So sad seeing more and more young people smoking around here rather than less as should be expected.
I have one. Don’t marry a smoker if you aren’t one. They might quit for a while but will resent you for it. It was easier just to let her start again, and rig up some exhaust fans and smart switches to protect myself.
Personally I wonder if switching from the term ‘smoker’ to something more accurately describing the experience for people around them, maybe something like ‘stinker’ and ‘horrible stinker’ instead of ‘heavy smoker’ might help reduce the appeal.
The exact opposite has happened, because “smoking” was a bad term, now it is “vaping” and that sounds cool, doesn’t it. That’s also the way smoking made a comeback with young people, vaping and
tabaktabacco with sweet tastes and nice scent and shisha bars.*tabacco
And at least vapers don’t stink. Nicotine on its own isn’t even too bad for health. It’s just catastrophic when it makes people inhale smoke.
Vapers make the entire area around them stink
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I was against smoking until I arrived in the psychward. If you’re suicidal your health isn’t that important to you.
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This is just anectodal evidence, but I feel like more people have started to smoke again during the last ~10 years or so.
A few years ago, aggressive marketing rules were introduced here in Germany which resulted in very disgusting pictures on cigarette boxes displaying the consequences of lung cancer etc.
The thing is, when those rules were introduced, cigarette boxes were still prominently displayed everywhere. You just had them lying around en masse at the counter or checkout in any shop, so even as a non-smoker you always had to see the consequences of destroying your own body when you inhale toxic substances. And during that time, I was rarely seeing people smoking at all. It just got really, really uncool to do it.
Nowadays you don’t really see those boxes anymore. You have to ask the lady at the counter for them or you go to one of those neutral-looking vending machines we have on the streets. I’m not sure if this is what causes people to start smoking again, maybe it’s also the rise of vaping influencers.
I believe there was a study done 1 or 2 years ago that came to the conclusion that especially younger people have started smoking again. I wonder why? Is it just that typical phase of being different than the older generation?
I would love if people would just go back and stop smoking again. Especially those arseholes that are smoking while waiting at a red light. These people deserve a special kind of hell. The second group is smokers selling stuff on eBay and omitting that detail in the description.
Think about it, smoking is as green as it gets. Think of how much waste every human makes every year and how many animals have to die just to sustain the average human for a year. Think of how much plastic waste the average human makes. If every human lived 20 fewer years, that’s mountains of garbage and billions of creatures saved from extinction.
So, if I’m speeding with my car in a school zone…?
You deserve a discount on your taxes, yes.
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“Die Renten sind sicher”. (pensions are safe)
Weird way to go about it, but it might work.
It’s a harmful activity that’s about to go extinct. Almost all smokers started because it’s “cool”, and now it’s no cooler for anyone.
You are detached. Its still cool for many groups of adolescents, at least here in Germany. Can’t comprehend it, but it’s real.
Probably just an American. It’s not cool to smoke here any more it’s cool to rip a fat vape. The amount of smokers has gone down but the amount of nicotine users is probably relatively unchanged.
Smoking went into decline long before vaping started to really take off in the US.
I dunno about Germany, if that’s what you meant.
You’re not wrong but the decline sharply excellerated after vaping took off. All the information is public.
I don’t smoke or vape for the record I Just believe in harm reduction for those who use drugs.
I mean it’s only going extinct because people are vaping instead, which is definitely healthier than smoking cigarettes but the nicotine addicts are still out there.
All smokers die eventually, but they’ll reproduce before this happens. I won’t count on extinction.
about to
In geological terms, sure. But for humans the century or so that it will take is quite long.
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i mean, if some people wanna kill themselves sooner rather than later, id say let them lol
If they didn’t hurt other people in the process, I’d be a lot happier about it.
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Everyone who has to inhale the smoke. Especially kids in cars and at home when thr parents smoke.
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It’s currently being implemented for cars in Germany.
But afaik it’s not illegal for parents to smoke at home anywhere but Bhutan (which banned tobacco completely).
Society has to pay any healthcare stuff that’s caused by smoking. An earlier death and the resulting savings for the retirement fund is not enough to outweigh that.
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Society has to pay any healthcare stuff that’s caused by smoking. An earlier death and the resulting savings for the retirement fund is not enough to outweigh that.
Actually, it likely is. What you’re forgetting is that smoking also saves a lot of money in healthcare. After all non-smokers also age and get sick. The early death of smokers due to smoking related diseases prevents a lot of costs due to age related diseases. Afaik there’s no consensus about whether or not smoking saves money on healthcare. E.g. in this study smoking costs money with males, but saves money with females. If you count in pension then the additional healthcare costs are easily offset.
I am however fairly sure that smoking becomes expensive for society when you start to include productivity. Smokers tend to contribute less to society, though afaik it’s hard to calculate the effect of that because smoking is associated with lower education.
Keine Kinder kriegen und rauchen um schneller zu verenden dann sich über die Einwanderer aufregen und von “Ersatztheorie” spinnen. Deutschland 👌
Be aware that this is an English-language community. :)
Sorry, I didn’t know. It’s not written in the sidebar. I’ll unsub.
Es gibt auch noch !europa@feddit.de. Allerdings mit weniger Aktivität.
Kann ich da mal vielleicht mitmachen. Danke.
Da haste aber einen gewaltigen Bogen geschlagen
Aber habe ich Unrecht?
Womit? Dass es hier eine Schnittmenge gibt? Was für eine Erkenntnis soll das sein?
Geht es immer um Erkenntnisse? Ist jeder Satz, jedes Wort, jede Silbe die du von dir gibst ein neues Erkenntis?
Nene, wart mal, jetzt würde es mich doch interessieren. Womit hast du Recht? Oder nicht Unrecht?
Ja hast du.
Nah, we just think its better to live your life how you want instead of “living healthy” and working till 70…
Who is we?
Not that this take was not true, but it’s not a very German approach to life. I’ve heard we are known as Körnerfresser in France, because we consume full grains for braekfast instead of a coffee and a cigarette.
