As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they’d let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don’t recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.
Not to mention in the early years, all of the logic you’d see from iPhone enthusiasts who would convince themselves that they didn’t need X or Y feature from Android and in fact iOS is better without it anyways because it just works, only for Apple to turn around and implement it a couple months or years later anyways.
Basic features like the notification shade, quick actions, home screen widgets, etc. I saw a lot of people happily claim they were better off without these things.
Yes. I remember being argued down that “we don’t need copy and paste! That’s not an important feature!”. Smh
Right click!? Two mouse buttons are way too confusing for Mac users!
Oh man I forgot about that one! 😂😭
What’s the key combo for right click on macos, if your track pad and mouse aren’t working? No one knows… Or can tell me. They always say “jUsT gEt aNothER mOUse”… Yeah dickhead, I’m on a plane, what’s the key combination?
Windows it’s shift+f10.
I remember this!
This is so true.
For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.
Over those years I’ve watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.
In recent years they’ve gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.
I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.
Guy at work literally laughed when I said iOS totally ripped off android navigation, thought Apple did that, pulled up a YT vid of when gesture navigation started, he walked away with his head down.
Then of course I followed him around going on about restricted Bluetooth for years, NFC chips they couldn’t use, how long ago the first Google wallet came out, and of course, how I can move my icons out of the way so I can actually see my wallpaper, which is too advanced for the apple devs LOL.
But agreed, iPhones are half descent now, great hardware, just wish people could actually use it the way they wanted to .
Steve Jobs was full of shit and killed himself with his own over confidence.
The guy had no furniture in his house because he couldn’t find any that met his expectations.
I think there’s an occasional lesson to draw from his uncompromising nature, focus on customer experience, and marketing talent. But he was clearly a pile of shit as a human being.
And in the end the lying salesman died because of snakeoil therapy. I wish more stories had such a happy ending.
He had the rare treatable pancreatic cancer, and he didn’t treat it because he didn’t believe in modern medicine.
Goes to show how stupid supposedly smart people are.
Steve jobs and Elon musk are basically the same character.
Reminder that Steve Wozniak is the true Apple genius.
He’s also the guy that carries an Android in his pocket for all his fun stuff!
They both are. Woz wanted to create hobbyist boards without even casing. Jobs was the one that pushed for commercial use. Separately they probably wouldn’t have had anywhere near the impact as they did together. At best Woz would be Linus Torvalds.
As a PocketPC (WinMo) user before the iPhone even existed, I take offense to the claim.
They pioneered capacitive touchscreen for ease of use, but I had ditched dumb phones years before iPhone.
Note XDA refers to the old Windows Mobile XDA phone and then became an Android community. I was there for that transition and none of us were very impressed with the iPhone, but understood that it would be something for the tech illiterate would eat up.
When Android came out, we went from Custom Roms for WinMo to Custom ROMs for Android.
Not just Windows Mobile, but Blackberry OS, Palm OS, Symbian, not to mention the madlads hacking Linux onto feature phones (which eventually gave us PostMarketOS). iOS was actually very underwhelming when it came out, was(is) explicitly function over form and basically had(has) “it looks pretty and feels sleek” as its only selling points. Didn’t even have third party apps whereas most of its contemporaries had them for ages by then.
I thought I was in “!android” not “!IHateApple”.
Whatever you think of Steve Jobs, Android is better off for having competition
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In the end Samsung would owe Apple around $500 million in US courts and Apple lost (a value I’m not even going to sit here and add up) in international courts.
The whole US snafu was largely seen around the world as American protectionism. As for Apple and Google, Apple saw their case wasn’t as slam dunk internationally and decided to settle with Google in 2014.
Really though, once Steve Jobs died, the momentum for litigation dropped precipitously. Only Jobs was willing to go thermonuclear.
The Samsung lawsuits were kinda different. Samsung has a long history of flat out copying competitors. There are ample examples of icons being taken and reused, and all of their previous phones were clones of blackberry and windows phone. Once they stopped doing that they actually started finding their own UI language and make great products.
I was kind of hoping that these kinds of posts would stay at reddit where they belong.
Awesome, with low post counts and users on Lemmy, and an upvote system that mimics Reddits - your shit out of luck with whatever agenda for keeping lemmy “small” or however you pictured it in your mind.
The upvotes have spoken and the community wants to see this type of information.
We can discuss in the feedback thread since I feel this is getting close to breaking Rule 6.
I don’t think this post needs mod action, you are all grown-ups (or should at least, act like grown-ups here), but I would still like to encourage less low effort posts in the future.
Is it low effort though? There’s an entire generation that wasn’t around for the introduction of the iPhone and may have no idea this quote even existed.
Android currently has an image problem with this generation. To say the two are not related and chalking it up to “low effort” is, in itself, low effort.
This isn’t even a Steve Jobs quote, it’s a Picasso quote.
I’d say posting a screenshot of a quote and a title is pretty low effort. Write a sentence or two of your own thoughts in the text box when you submit something, it’s not that hard.
Yes Picasso, famous artists who paints pictures like everyone else… hmm, perhaps the quote doesn’t mean what everyone assumes it does.
Alright smartass, it effectively became his quote when he referenced and repeated it and applied it to his specific industry.
This generation may also have no awareness of the Picasso quote either, ya pedantic smartass.
Yeah Steve, you really showed us Windows and Android users. Fuckin’ nerd.
That top quote doesn’t mean what you think it means.
The bottom lacks vital context. Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google was on the Apple board during the development of the iPhone and iPad and was privy to insider information all awhile pivoting Android from a blackberry rip off to exactly what Apple was doing. It’s similar to the Xerox thing back in the 80s where people think Jobs is being a hypocrite about ripping off their GUI when Bill Gates did it too. Apple paid Xerox in stock to see it, Microsoft just took it. Not illegal, but Jobs was pissed.
