Ok, real talk: is that actually legal? It’s definitely fraud, but can you fraudulently sell illegal substances?
No, this is definitely illegal in the US. You will likely get multiple charges for fraud, intent to sell narcotics, and if anyone gets harmed attempted manslaughter (some people are allergic to oregano, a lot of stuff that looks like cocaine is deadlier than cocaine). If your customers aren’t dumb kids the retaliation could be worse than the cops too.
Fraud I get, but intent to sell narcotics is ridiculous. You never had the intent, that’s why you’re selling oregano. And manslaughter? WTF. Battery at best, manslaughter only if someone actually dies. The US legal system is so damn punitive.
If someone was actually allergic to oregano, and smoked it, they would be in a bad way.
If they vomited and aspirated while having breathing trouble from their allergy, or experience any other type of complication while they are in respiratory distress you are totally on the hook for what happens to them.
They can reasonably make a case to charge you. That doesn’t mean the charges will stick or hold up in court.
You’re also definitely not supposed to sell stuff out of your backpack at a school, like if a teacher catches you selling anything, that could get you in trouble in school at the least
In many jurisdictions in the US it is illegal to sell imitation controlled substances.
Thank you for linking this. I’ll be honest, I read most of it pretty skeptically thinking it was a silly law, but as a harm reduction for people OD’ing on a substances they have been misled about and doctors being able to accurately treat patients, this actually makes a lot of sense. Ty for the context. ♥
I think it’s probably illegal to sell anything, especially food, without being registered with the required services like the IRS or the FDA.
This could fall under the same regulation as a lemonade stand or fundraising cake sales.
Definitely if you’re selling [not-food] a and claiming it’s [food]. But I don’t necessarily think there’s anything that prevents you from selling something that you say is not safe to eat, despite it actually being safe to eat. Companies do that all the time where they’ll say their product is not safe for x even though it is, jsut to avoid liability.
If you just used slang I doubt there would be any way to make a case, besides not like you give receipts.
Courts and police don’t have much tolerance for that.
Maybe, but what prosecutor would pursue that? Hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt if all you have is a bag of oregano and the testimony of a few children that faked being high. Not a great use of time, and all for one 17 year old kid
Are you familiar with the United States? It doesn’t sound like it. In many towns, whether small cities, affluent suburbs or large cities, police, DAs and courts seemingly have nothing better to do. In the high school I attended in suburban New England they absolutely would have prosecuted a teenager who tried selling imitation drugs. I knew people who were targeted by police for years and eventually went through all sorts of police and court processes for less than 2 grams of weed.
The only way they wouldn’t have is if the family had enough money to get great lawyers, or they were related to someone who worked for the local government or school.
I came up in a small town and they were thrilled at any opportunity to bust one of us with a little marijuana and they prosecuted as intensely as they could. My town was famous for sending kids to jail rather than diversionary programs.
Yep! People think of it as an urban thing (i think?) but small city police use it as a way to abuse the fuck out of people.
Shrug I live in the Bay which I guess isn’t terribly representative of the rest of the US? I went to high school in Texas though and we only had one student arrested, and he was dealing.
Sorry for your experiences! Sounds awful
Definitely varies by region or specific cities. And thanks! Yeah, the police and school administration where I lived were insanely punitive and pretty much out to get counter-culture type kids. I had a bunch of conflict with a middle school vice principal and a few years after I left he was fired for punching a student… so… they moved him to Principal of an elementary school. Our HS security guard was an ex DEA agent and he and the admin were obsessed with the idea of busting kids for smoking weed. Local cops were obsessed with the idea of pulling us over and searching us and the car, and we were 15-18. We didn’t realize we could say no. One time we bought a bong at a local head shop and it turned out the cops were staking it out and followed us, then claimed the driver made a ‘rolling stop’ 100 feet before we got to the next city limits. We’d also get stopped just driving around not doing anything, if they saw 2-3 teenagers in a car. So, both the school and local police were pretty tough to deal with. In a midwestern town we moved to, my brother and a friend had this one cop who had it out for them who would walk up and just start jamming his hands in their pockets “am I going to find anything? am I going to stab myself on a needle?” (which makes no sense, they never did/got busted for IV drugs). I went into my 20s thinking I’d always have to be concerned about being pulled over and searched but when I moved to the SW it didn’t happen again.
All that the OOP asked was if it was legal, not if it would actually be prosecuted. You’re right that there’s no way anon would end up in jail for this but it’s not legal either.
they can’t do anything
I know all greentexts are fake but this gave it away for me. Schools will 100% suspend you for what anon did, even if it’s not actual drugs it’s still drug paraphernalia (if this doesn’t stick it can be filed under the “causing a distraction” clause).
I imagined it as them just having heard rumors of what anon did and possession of actual drugs would have been their only evidence…
Also, selling people fake drugs is fraud.
None of the students are going to admit they tried to buy drugs
one of them must have, how else did OP end up in the office with the cops?
Teacher finds bag, is as naiive as the kid, assumes weed and asks where did you get this? Kid drops the name, teacher calls cops thinking (but in no way verifying) they’ve found a dealer. OP has conversation with cops, kid catches wind of it and realises it’s better to run with “yeah it’s for cooking” than “I was trying to buy drugs and got ripped off”.
kid drops the name
They find the bag in your backpack
That’s enough to charge right there
Yep - leading to the kind of embarrassment in the original post.
Well the cops can’t do anything, who cares if you get suspended in HS that’s just a vacation. This is obviously fake but that isn’t what gave it away lol
Lmao, the cops can arrest you for no reason. In this case “suspected of selling drugs” is probable cause. I’m pretty sure selling fake drugs is illegal, anyway.
There were a few kids arrested when I was in high school. The cops didn’t ask shit. They just showed up, arrested them, and left.
Only in America 🤡
Lmao, like this shit doesn’t happen only in America
How clean are you?
How clean? What the fuck does that even mean lmfao
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How corrupt are your police?
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https://www.rpfoley.com/selling-fake-controlled-substances-florida-statute-817-563.html
Here’s at least one state where misrepresenting something as a controlled substance then selling it is punishable even what was actually sold is unregulated
America, not even once.
How could they prove that he was selling it? Listen in reality what would happen if this actually happened was the cops get mad at whichever administrator called them for wasting their time.
How could they prove he was selling it?
It’s kinda obvious that one of his customers got caught and flipped. That would be proof enough for expulsion at least.
That totally happened.
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