I guess it is a consequence of the Reddit migration where the habit is just keeping the old community name. But having C/Politics being US only on Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
Would have been cool to give up this assumption that everything is related to US by default when moving away from Reddit. I mean, even the canadian political news of Lemmy.ca is CanadaPolitics.
More than weird, it should be corrected.
How quickly we want to become Reddit I guess.
Well, that community is just as toxic and block-worthy as the reddit sub already. Mission accomplished.
I was more meaning wanting the admins to fuck around with the communities a la /u/spez.
You can always leave to another instance or make your own if you don’t like the admins. Proper democracy in action. Wasn’t like that on Reddit.
Only fair if you use a generic name like “politics” and make it only about US.
Or Android and then lock it.
True, Lemmy users act like a bunch of landed gentries and Admins really shouldn’t allow this! /s
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That seems to be the nature of people who want to discuss politics online.
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Are the admins deleting global content or something? If not, wouldn’t correcting it just be more people from other countries posting their own political news?
It’s part of the rules:
Must be articles relevant to US political news. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed.
It should change its name to US Leftist Politics. The mod u/YoBuckStopsHere is responsible for 80 percent of the posts and its comes with their bias. Their mods also delete posts and dont enforce the TOS. If you want to have any educated discussion about politics, thats not the place. Its a very close minded, hostile crowd over there.
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Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It’s quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn’t have its own instance. I’ve already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn’t go anywhere.
I am sure the fact they don’t use they ccTLD “.us” (not even the government) is part of that mentality. The internet is kind of built to be usanian by default
As someone living in the United States, I personally do not want to be on a US only instance. US is a burning pile of poop right now. Please save us
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What do you mean. the USA ain’t the whole world?
Every country in the world belongs to America
Because according to Americans, they are The Normal.
It definitely should change its name to US Politics.
Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)… or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?
There’s a rather large distinction there.
We love you Canada, but let’s be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that’s messed up.
It’s most likely because r/politics on Reddit was that way, and people tend to make subreddit clones on Lemmy.
Right, which I think is the root problem. Not all the subreddit names were great - I would have liked to have seen us try to do better - but I think many were just trying to make the correlation between communities and subreddits as obvious as possible.
IIRC, over half of Reddit’s traffic was US-based. I’d be interested to see if the same is true for lemmy.world.
I’m sure they would delete non-US political news if it is part of their rules.
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Politics was my first blocked community on Lemmy. Then every other US politics community that has sprung up. They’re either echo chambers or flame wars and it’s irritating to use the internet as an escapism and run into arguments daily.
and run into arguments daily.
The same arguments daily! Even as a politically active American it’s utterly boring and unnecessary. Yes, we get it, you hate $PoliticalTribe and feel that you need to show everyone how awful they are. Yes, fine, they are truly terrible. Now lets talk about something else for a minute.
I’ll speak to the moderators, if we should unlock it for international politics, but right now it’s US moderators and I barely know italy politics or EU politics but am Interested in adding them.
They’re trolling you, don’t open it up. This is the most popular and largest.
Then they should get more europeans, why should there only be mods from the US lol.
That’s so reductive, it’s absurd. It’s free labor to moderate these things.
Who is they? And where do these people magically spring from? If lemmy has a low content issue, surely there would be a low amount of people willing to moderate as well.
You really think Lemmy has a content issue lol?
And of course free labor don’t grow on trees but I’m pretty sure there are many that would be willing.
Because Americans were apparently the only people who wanted to work for free
I wonder if it has to do with r/politics being US only, I really don’t know mate.
It’s the same issue. Not all politics is american. It should be uspolitics instead.
I agree. on any other server it would already be questionable, but lemmy.world suggests international appeal. The default news should be world news, with each country heading their own channel.
Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
I never got the impression that this instance specifically aimed to be international. It always felt like the aim was to replace Reddit in whatever way that manifests itself. I never got the impression that every community needed to be equally inclusive of content from all countries.
As for !politics@lemmy.world, I think part of the problem is that changing the rule would result in very little change since
So it may be better to just keep the US users isolate where they are and create a new sub that would just be less dominated by those users.
From the Lemmy.world description:
“A generic Lemmy server for everyone to use. The World’s Internet Frontpage Lemmy.world is a general-purpose Lemmy instance of various topics, for the entire world to use.”
And the logo is an earth. It does not forbid any community restricted to one specific country (neither should it, it’s perfectly normal), but it sure isn’t specifically tied to the US. I think a fair comparison would be if c/politics was China content only, that would looks weird too (even more so because of the language but well, surely you get my point).
I just think you’re reaching to say the “world” branding has anything to do with the philosophy of the website. I think it’s cool branding and synergy with the mastodon instance. Other than that, it is no more worldly than Reddit was.
With that said, it’s no more weird that c/politics is specific to US politics than r/politics was.
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It is going to take some getting used to, but the honest answer is to run your own instance and host your version on that. Gonna get real weird though.
I suppose it’s about moderation. It would be a bad idea to talk about European or south American politics if there’s only US moderation. Política is a very touchy matter and needs a very good and diverse moderation team.
Which is not an issue at all. Plenty of medium-sized subs have a geographically wide spanning mod team. For a large sub like that it’s a non-issue.
Another example: !law@lemmy.world
US people are way too blind to the existence of the outside world. I’m sure they have no idea that Lemmy.World is not in the US. I’m not really sure what could be done about this other than making a new more broad politics community. I’d prefer the generic named community to be the one that is the most broad and then if you wanted only US politics to make a more specific community such as !USPolitics@lemmy.world.
I don’t think it would be out of bounds for instance admins to force such change as they see fit if it makes enough sense.
Or you know, !worldpolitics could be a thing and you could stop telling other people how to think and behave.
I’m not telling people how to think and behave. That is a weird thing to say in my opinion. I’m sharing my thoughts and feeling. I don’t mind if people disagree or have counter points to make. That is the nature of discussion.
You clearly have an agenda in asking the question. There’s no problem with that, but pretending you don’t is… weird.
Unless non-American politics is being deleted then it is just who the more prolific posters are.
Look at the rules. It IS being deleted in c/politics
That is weird!
Note: didn’t notice that clicking the post heading would take me there until I checked after your reply and I’m still getting my head around the syntax for finding new communities.
I can see where you’re coming from, however…Did you message the mods of /c/politics & ask if they might consider changing their display name to more clearly indicate their US focus? It’s not ideal, but the display name is what’s shown when searching for communities or seeing posts from them in local/all feeds, so it at least helps in that regard.
At the same time, as other comments point out, there are a number of other politics communities with a broader focus across other instances, so unlike Reddit, we can have a /c/politics in any number of other instances with different rules and without a US focus. In a weird way, it’s almost better that the /c/politics here is US focused, as it encourages folks to post & discuss general politics (including the US) in other smaller instances.
Although, ultimately, this would come down to whether the admins would prefer such simply named communities to have a wider focus as their name suggests instead of a narrow focus as is happening here, but I haven’t gotten the sense that the admins necessarily want to get that directly involved in community naming & creation tbh.
I think you’re missing the last part of the fully qualified name: “.world”
It’s a difference of interpretation imo. Others here understandably read it as meaning or suggesting an international focus, but others still (such as myself) read it as meaning a general focus (which is itself reinforced by the front page’s own description).
Personally I do agree with OP & others here in preferring non-specific communities like politics or law to be open to international politics & law, but I’m not in a position to make that call. Also as noted, I don’t think the admins are interested in intervening in communities so long as their moderators aren’t abusing their positions nor abandoning their accounts & letting communities go unmoderated.
So lemmy.world should not host content that is specific to the USA?
Does “world” refer to the literal world or the world of lemmy?
There goes pennsylvania@lemmy.world
Sorry guys, gotta leave.
Can we change the sub icon then? Since it’s wearing an American flag hat thing?
The US have a world series for American football/American rugby which only they compete in. America is… errrm interesting.
American football has the Superbowl. The World Series is for baseball, which is very much a global effort. Canada is the only other country that has a team (Toronto Bluejays), but MLB players are recruited from all over the world. Shohei Ohtani is from Japan, Julio Rodriguez, Carlos Santana , and a bunch of other players are from the Dominican Republic, Jose Caballero is from Panama… You get the picture. The MLB World Series is most certainly a series for the best baseball players in the world.
A bit of a delayed response, but I didn’t want to ignore it. I do stand corrected on many of those points. I don’t agree with the last sentence, but I appreciate the accuracy and will upvote.
For something to be a world series, I would hope there would be teams around the world that represents the sport and compete against each other. For example, in football (your soccer), you have a world cup which has countries from around the world competing, and you have competitions like the Europa Champions League (the best clubs in Europe competing). I think one individual from a country doesn’t necessarily indicate country participation.
