• @meyotch@slrpnk.net
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    13 days ago

    Part is regulations. Utah, of all places, recently passed legislation that requires utilities to allow small solar systems to plug into home systems without an application or fee from the utility.

    up to 1200kWac

    • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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      Where I live, you can buy solar, but the energy isn’t yours. You can’t install a battery and the energy generated only gets you a discount, but never gets you below zero. Essentially you’re buying the energy company some equipment for a discount on your bill.

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      713 days ago

      The other part is lack of tenant rights. Which Utah will not be a leader on anytime soon. Our leases have half page long restrictions on what can and can’t be on your balcony and the legislature isn’t about to back up renters.

      • @meyotch@slrpnk.net
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        211 days ago

        It took me a while to reply to this. I thought it was a really good comment though.

        I didn’t think about landlords doing their usual douchey thing. But of course this is going to happen because anything that disturbs some apartment owners arbitrary aesthetic vision is going to be banned easily.

        I read the legislation. it’s only five pages. It is really biased for single home owners without being explicit about that.

        The actual law

        I think I did the estimate correctly, under typical sunny Utah conditions you would only make about a dollar worth of electricity a day at current rates with the maximum allowed system.

      • @meyotch@slrpnk.net
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        111 days ago

        Yes, 1.2kWac. Did I do the estimate correctly? My quick estimate of the power yield under Utah conditions is anywhere between a dollar and $1.50 a day? Does that seem to be in the ballpark?

  • @Breezy@lemmy.world
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    512 days ago

    Why dont they just lease them to people and be paid by the electricity generated. Then when its paid off the owner gets the profits.

    • @demunted@lemmy.ml
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      Get out of here with your ‘logic’.

      Wondering, wouldn’t the power generated appear as a reduction of power used on the tenants bill? Meaning the tenant would need to pay the leasing company and tenants are less likely to do that?

      Having the power company so this would make perfect sense in that scenario.

  • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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    Power station vendors have a solution for US. Smart plugs that never backflow to grid. US utility monopolies hate solar, but the most friendly solar regulation possible is low fixed monthly fees for low amp inflow cap (with high per kwh rates), or permission for homes to be off grid.

    Even with forced grid connections, there is a ROI case for self consumption only solar that requires no grid permissions for no grid sell back/credits. Powerstations are a fairly easy method, for portable power that can be rearranged in home, including DC power efficiency benefits. Multiple power stations can deal with shading and multiple panel orientations, can deal with power outages, and provide emergency power in rooms where needed or fully mobile power. EVs can ensure you never have too much power stored, and while TOU rates still favour overnight charging, even (morning) kitchen needs can be shifted to solar or minimal/optimal grid charging.

    Tariffs are a big obstacle for US now, but rest of Americas has similar grid. If consumers get extorted from data center demand preference, it is further reason to seek escape.