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Yes, this means a ton of carbon ends up in the atmosphere instead of in the trees. The right move would be thinning and prescribed burns, but this administration isn’t going to do that.
These are our forests. They belong to the US people. They’re being stolen from us. For private profit of a few.
It’s an American tradition.
I mean, as the other guy pointed out, you as a people stole the fucking lot and literally massacred thousands upon thousands of people to do it.
Shoe’s on the other foot now, eh?
Ah yes, because native Americans celebrate the raping of their lands as long as the people who took it from them hundreds of years ago descendants (unlikely, given how many generations are immigrants) are also having their lands raped too.
Get the fuck out here with this brain-rot level argument. 🤦
Go stir the pot somewhere else.
You’re right in that it was a comment designed to “stir the pot”, if by that you mean, “make someone stop for a moment and consider their position in history”.
I agree that any right thinking person, of Native American origin or otherwise should be aghast at the current US administrations utter destruction of everything, from old growth forest to human structures of civilisation.
Reading it back, my comment sounds flippant and ignorant. That’s on me for commenting pre-coffee and smoke. 💛
Reading it back, my comment sounds flippant and ignorant.
I don’t think you all on .ee can help that, you seem to be solely a propaganda instance.
Funny you say that from the padded room instance. 🤣
Have you even looked at my comment history to decide what kind of person I am, or did you decide that purely from where I registered my account over a year ago?
Have I seen you around yes, I believe we’ve even interacted before. That said no in don’t profile creep which is why I made a general statement I think I’m probably correct on.
And Britain stole the world, what point does any of this make? What do you want done about it?
They did. And created and taught others some of the most reprehensible methods of population control and genocide the world has ever seen.
Acknowledging it rather than denying it. Learning from the darkest parts of our history, to never have it be repeated is what I want done.
Ignorance of our history is why it keeps repeating itself. Gestures widely
Both times it was the government to the greatest extent.
“The government” offered money for the task, and thousands took that money and got on with the job.
“The Government” is people. Usually the worst, most manipulative self-serving people. It does what other people let it get away with.
You stole that whole country
Moot, pointless, argument.
This argument accomplishes what exactly? Aside from trying to just stir the pot or create culture war drama?
It’s okay for public lands to be raped and razed now? Because (like damn near all the land in the world, everywhere) was taken during war/conflict?
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Our native Americans the only ones who are allowed to be concerned about the country it’s land and the environment?
Your argument and point again only serves to further the culture war aspect of this and does nothing to address the problem at hand.
that’s just your little opinion
A little opinion is appropriate in response to a small minded comment.
No one asked for yours anyway.
And are you mislabeling it as ‘small minded’ bcs it’s directly confronting your hypocrisy?
Looks like you’ve got a case of the projections.No one asked for yours anyway.
And who asked for yours? Are you just special?
And are you mislabeling it as ‘small minded’ bcs it’s directly confronting your hypocrisy?
LOL, I’m not an American.
Looks like you’ve got a case of the projections.
ROFLMAO I can’t even, ZERO self awareness with this bloke.
Oh you’re from the country that’s clearly in the same boat.
Or the bigger boat since you plundered a lot more.
Ah, a troll.
“They’re gonna chop down national forests”
“bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???”
bruh
“bUt WhAT aBoUt ThE iNdIaNs???”
bruh
The opinion of people who write like this can’t be take seriously
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Uhm, why can he just decide this? Not part of his expertise or departement.
Trump doesn’t like that the US buys lumber from Canada. He’s going to announce 34% tariffs on lumber from Canada in the next few days.
Other than the Pacific northwest most U.S. forest trees do not make good building lumber.
The rest is an assault on the natural world.
In addition to the blanket tariffs already announced? Seriously I think that guy might be an evil alien supervillain or something. He seems to be doing his best to ruin the world in any way he can.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-hikes-softwood-lumber-duties-1.7503120
He’s out to cripple Canada’s economy, then he’ll attempt to invade it. True evil.
That our government has been reacting to his shit rather than controlling it is infuriating.
Some national parks might be protected by legislation, such as the Yosemite Act of 1864, but massive amounts of land were protected by the executive branch such as Teddy Roosevelt protecting 150 Million Acres of forest and Joseph Biden protecting 674 Million Acres.
Then you also have Treaties with native americans which can be considered law if Republicans actually acknowledged them as such (they don’t).
National Forest Service is a part of the Department of Agriculture, part of the executive branch.
Yeah, but he can decide that alone?
He appoints and directs the head of the department who, in turn, can more or less do so. They’ve been blatantly ignoring status quo and legal authority for a while now, so unless the supreme court gets the case and disagrees, they’re unlikely to stop.
It’s the goal of project 2025 that he is able to.
Trump has two legs. Just sayin
The Black Knight always triumphs!
It’s just a flesh wound!
So just cut one off. Gotcha
We get 30% of our lumber from Canada. This is the inevitable consequence of shutting our borders to trade via tariffs - if these policies stick around for four years, sure, we may bring some manufacturing home at great immediate cost, but we’ll also be bringing home the environmental burdens of manufacturing (the negative externalities) which we’ve been pushing onto other countries and ignoring for decades. In the meantime, other countries have started to learn how to handle those externalities, like China’s big push for solar power. In America, we’ve got an idiot who is rolling back worker safety, health and environmental protections, the list goes on. So even if these tariffs worked, we’re going to be living in a less healthy place, all in the name of jobs…
This has nothing to do with the tariffs; even if those weren’t happening Trump would be selling the trees off to his cronies anyway. It’s a blatantly corrupt kleptocracy.
It has everything to do with lumber tariffs, it’s just the other end of the equation. The forests are the supply, and the tariffs will create the demand.
They are privatizing every single thing.
Nothing to do with Tariffs. They just make the business more juicy for his cronies.
The trees can’t be harmed if the lorax is armed. You touch his trees, he aims for your knees.
The absolute level of stupidity of this is ridiculous. Lumber mills are not designed for old growth trees in the modern era, so all these trees will not even become lumber. Logging has become very sustainable in recent decades. They farm trees and mill them when they reach the size that the machinery at the mills is optimized for. If we just cut down all the forests, the mills can’t even process the logs even though it’s better lumber. In reality, they’d just send the old growth logs to be ground for pulp which is a total waste. This video does a good job explaining it.
My body is not ready for the amount of alcohol and dancing I am going to force myself to take part in on the day this motherfucker dies and goes to hell.
Literally, the most destructive and evil human on the planet since Hitler. I can’t wait until the worms get him. I kind of feel bad for them, but I guess it’s part of the job.
That scene in the matrix 2
Fucking murder this fuck
I got a mod deletion the last time I said anything like this. Good luck and I fucking agree.
Fortunately this community is on slrpnk.net which might not have the same kinds of trigger happy mods as .world?
You’ve got to be careful how you word it lest the gestapo come for you. I will derive pleasure from reading his obituary though.
I will also say that 18 U.S. Code § 2381 says that he should be well, you know. Or fined and put in jail for five years but that’s not as fun.
Holy shit, America, you are so fucked at this point.
One can make useful items out of wood.
Guillotines, for example…
Gallows are another.
That is just… Insane. Incredibly sad.
My first thought. Seems appropriate.Just fyi, I’m pointing out Trump’s similarities to an evil villain. I’m not using this to agree. I’m very much against this, having grown up in the woods (practically raised by my local forest, as my mother was an awful drunk and single parent) and I spent most of my youth walking through the peace and quiet of the trees.
I grew up with my mother seeing nothing but my father in me, and was abused for it. Those trees gave me the shelter I needed and I would have been 100x more a mess if I didn’t have them. So no. Don’t take my fucking trees en masse.
Then i guess it’s time to start living up to the old namesake.
I prefer Karo, but that’s the idear.
I predict that any company that participates in destroying the parks will end up even worse off then Tesla. I’ve been a hiker my whole life and I’ve met a lot of retired military on the trail.
One would hope, though I have my doubts due to the wood not being a consumer product. People spend little time researching the next president, I would be surprised if enough people track wood sources to the point of being able to accurately boycott
They ain’t talking about boycotts son.
