• @Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    386 months ago

    I blame everybody who didn’t vote against Trump.

    I blame the informed voters more than the ignorant idiots.

    Genocide in Palestine will now be followed by a genocide in Ukraine.

    And kiss any climate action good-bye.

    • coyotino [he/him]
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      136 months ago

      blame Harris. The voters told her they would stay home if she didn’t denounce genocide. She continued to ignore them and support genocide, so voters stayed home. The voters literally told her what to do to win and she didn’t do it.

      • @Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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        166 months ago

        So, now those voters have genocide in Gaza and a new one in Ukraine, plus the people who are dying because they can’t get medical abortions.

        Great job.

        • @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org
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          76 months ago

          I’m sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say “Don’t back genocide” and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because they’re the lesser of two evils? Clearly they don’t give a flying fuck what their constituents want.

          When they chided “who else are you going to vote for?” In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: “Nobody.” But it’s supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because it’s obvious they can’t win elections on being Republican Lite.

          • @Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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            So, now we’re looking at genocides in Gaza and Ukraine and the possibility of mass arrests in America.

            Congratulations.

            If people die because of your moral stand, it’s not really that moral.

            • @LoamImprovement@beehaw.org
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              36 months ago

              First off, I voted for Harris, so you can put your “moral stand” nonsense away; I know damn well how important this shit is. Second, the genocide in Palestine was happening either way and I’ve spent time and money before and after the election on causes to help Palestinians, because that’s way more effective than one measly vote. Can you say the same?

              Maybe direct this vitriol to your representatives instead of the people in this community?

  • coyotino [he/him]
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    216 months ago

    can we PLEASE get a new leftist party going in the US now? The Dems have proven for like 6 cycles now that they do not have the juice to get it done. Even when they win, they underperform expectations and then sit on their thumbs instead of actually doing anything for the American people besides the most basic infrastructural shit. Players like Lina Khan are the exception.

    • @within_epsilon@beehaw.org
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      46 months ago

      I have voted Democrat since I could vote. I voted third party this round. Liberals should blame me for the problems of the Empire. Vote Biden and move him left was only compelling once. Give me economic substance. Dismantle the Empire.

    • 🦊 OneRedFox 🦊OPM
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      46 months ago

      Would be nice, but their fanclub seems more interested in blaming everyone else for their humiliating failure this year rather than doing any sort of self-crit or reflection on their dogshit political system, so what they’ll probably do instead is just run another uncharismatic shitter and move right. I just hope that there’s enough of a demographic shift over the next 4 years that makes it easier for actually good candidates to get into position.

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    15+ million Democrats sat out compared to voting for Biden. I suspect this was less about Harris not being progressive enough, and more about sexism.

    I repeatedly heard Democrats tell me they didn’t think America was going to elect a woman president, and it looks like what they meant was they wouldn’t elect one.

    • coyotino [he/him]
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      156 months ago

      i suspect it has more to do with the fact that she supported genocide against Arabs abroad, and she needed Arab-Americans to win this election.

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        I wish I could at least believe it was about principles, but my gut tells me otherwise. This gap looks too similar to Hillary’s in 2016.

        If there’s a ~20% drop in your voters every time a woman is up for election, you’ve got a problem.

    • @sanzky@beehaw.org
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      she had a huge surge in popularity when her candidacy was announced. then she decided to move to the right assuming she would gain more votes from the mythical center than the votes she would loose from marginalized people and the left. She was wrong. so many people said this was happening. and she did nothing to fix it.

      Betraying people and then blaming them for not voting for you because the other guy is worse is EXTORTION.

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        you know those abussive partners that yell to their victims “where are you going if you leave me? you’ll sleep in the streets. You’ll be worse without me ”.

        that’s the dems.

      • @t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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        She had a huge surge in media popularity, but how many of the eventual sit-out voters would still have sat out from day 1, we’ll never know.

        Either way, the DNC has to go, because their choice to back Biden and delay everything until the last possible moment created this entire situation in the first place.

  • @LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee
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    56 months ago

    I wonder if the news and social media run for profit has something to do with this? Maybe someone should have done something about this shit lol