As a car owner, this is an insane take. Burning the car would be so much worse for the environment. You should only get to burn the driver.
Or maybe everybody should breathe through their pants, calm down a bit, share the road, that kinda stuff.
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If I never had to drive again, I’d be so happy. My job requires I drive :(
I gotta say, I’m really lucky where I am now. I’m in a PhD program right now. My husband and I moved to a college town from the big sprawling traffic nightmare that is Houston a few years back. He’s able to work from home; I’m able to bike or take the bus to campus. We have just one car for the household, and we get gas once every couple months. It’s glorious.
Yeah, that sounds really nice. I work construction so almost every site is hard to reach with public transportation or, too far for biking.
My best option is to get a very fuel efficient vehicle or, a motorcycle lol
Most cars can’t handle going off-road so it really isn’t true freedom of movement.
ALSO it should be legal for me to plow other cars out of my way because they are blocking my path.
Teenagers took over lemmy, clearly.
“Bbut he said …, and then I said …, ha!”
I wish I was a teenager. I’m as far from a teenager as a teenager is from an infant! Obviously you’ve never been in a bike lane, a car parked in front of you, dense traffic whizzing by to the left of you. If you had, you want to start setting things on fire as well.
I don’t. I want regulations and fines.
But where I live you will get a hefty fine for parking in a bike lane, and after some repeated offenses you’ll be sent for a driver’s re-education with your license being suspended till you’re done. So, I do occasionally see a car being parked in a bike lane. And I don’t wanna burn them. I remember I voted for the right party in the last elections, and that I live in the country where law and order prevail, and that the douche will get what he deserves.
In the meantime drivers around me have the ability to see that my lane is blocked, and I have the ability to signal with my hand that I need to merge. We respectfully resolve me cycling around the parked car and I continue my journey.
It appears to me you live in a place where laws really don’t work, and so you feel desperate enough to justify property damage to those who don’t abide by some laws that you find very important. It’s a very dangerous trope. And it rarely leads to better societies.
Sure. But that assumes police see cyclists as human beings rather than vermin that deserve to be run over. And in my experience, that is usually not the case. It is rare for a driver to get so much as a ticket for murdering a cyclist with their vehicle. Hell, half the time the vehicle parked in the bike lane is a police cruiser. And most cops are so obese they would crush any bicycle they tried to ride.
Dude, you really live in a fucked up place. And I seriously think burning cars isn’t going to help. Your problems go much much deeper.
If you live in a place where police doesn’t obide by the law, you need to rally for serious structural reforms. And for law and order, instead of doing stupid illegal shit and yelling “anarchy! ACAB!”.
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Oh, sorry, I’m talking to you like you were an actual stranger. Ofc I know you’re from the default country trying to score regular circle-jerk lemmy points.
Personally I like both ideas, I say we do a trial run for the next year and we can tally up the score then.
Who’s in?
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The moment the protestors barricade your doors and physically prevent you from leaving your vehicle.
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You’re talking about an absurd fantasy.
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I’d call it absurd to think it’s acceptable to murder people with a car due to a minor inconvenience and then celebrate it like you are. Pretty disgusting, too.
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I suggest you take a look in the mirror and then take your own advice
I guess it’s all criminals leaving these signs around then.
Theft requires the intent to permanently deprive, not the intent to momentarily inconvenience.
The same point where you are detained for kidnapping for forcing the other cars to stop in traffic.
Next time there is a jam, just throw everyone in jail for kidnapping each other.
The difference between a traffic jam and protestors blocking traffic is intent.
I take it none of you passed high school civics?
The guy who thinks being delayed by a protest is tantamount to kidnapping and murdering is casting aspersions on other’s education.
Nothing’s stopping a driver from getting out of their car and walking away. So never.
So I ask again, did the protesters just steal a car?
…no. if you leave your car somewhere is it stolen?
If I leave my car somewhere because a group of people gave me no choice but to do so, yes it is stolen.
Are you planning to do this? Do I need to contact the authorities?
For kidnapping, the person would have to sequester you and not let you leave. For stealing, they would have to physically take you car. It would probably get towed but I’d hardly consider that stealing.
I get the point you’re trying to make but the way you are going about it is kind of silly.
It’s also important to note that blocking traffic is a form of peaceful protest. If our politicians would listen to strongly worded letters or what the population wants, they wouldn’t be needed.
Stop being part of the problem. Learn what’s in your best interest and stop being easily manipulated. Like how often do you get caught in traffic because of a protest? I bet it hasn’t even happened to you but the media told you to be mad about it so you are.
So its robbery then.
No. It would be robbery if they stole your car. If you had to leave your vehicle and walk away, and your vehicle was subsequently towed, you might be able to sue them in court for the cost of towing and impounding your vehicle and maybe something for your time. But never would it arise to kidnapping or theft as a criminal matter. You are not your vehicle. It is only kidnapping or false imprisonment if you, your own physical person, are prohibited from leaving.
You must leave $20000 in my care else you cannot leave. Sounds like extortion.
You’re in c/fuckcars buddy. Read the room.
Or when is blocking an ambulance murder?
Would you make the same argument for emergency services closing lanes to responds to an accident?
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