Egyptian intelligence quietly changed the terms of a ceasefire proposal that Israel had already signed off on earlier this month, ultimately scuttling a deal that could have released Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, and set a pathway to temporarily end the fighting in Gaza, according to three people familiar with the discussions.
The ceasefire agreement that Hamas ended up announcing on May 6 was not what the Qataris or the Americans believed had been submitted to Hamas for a potential final review, the sources said.
The changes made by Egyptian intelligence, the details of which have not been previously reported, led to a wave of anger and recrimination among officials from the US, Qatar and Israel, and left ceasefire talks at an impasse.
Now that is a twist I didn’t see coming.
That’s a twist pretty much everyone saw who is not Israel hater. Israel reported the very day the talks broke up that terms were changed, but Hamas announced day prior they are accepting the terms, making Israel look like they are the ones who didn’t accept.
It was the same story about hospital being bombed. Everyone reported Israel bombing hospital and it took months of independent investigation to figure out what Israel initially said, which was that the stray rocket fell on parking lot and amount of victims wasn’t 500.
This is what Hamas does, fight media war making Israel look bad at every opportunity. Yesterday we could see just how much they fact check things when they reported a joke from social media as a fact checked news story about how “MOSAD agent named Eli Copter was responsible for deaths of Iranian leaders”… Seriously (h)Eli Copter. We came up with better jokes when we were kids.
It still hasnt been proven, independents aren’t allowed into the battle zone right now only those approved by Israel who then can’t claim to be unbiased.
Israel doesn’t need any help looking bad. Anyone with an ounce of integrity already hates them.
See, you’re being downvoted but I see no media openly recalling their articles and saying they jumped to conclusions.
Is Israeli innocent of everything - very doubtful. But people are screaming how bad Israel is because of what is seen in the media, that they argue and scream more about how bad they are when facts come out the media was wrong.
People scream about how bad israel is based on high civilians casualities, ton of genocidal israel statements and ton of videos documenting IDF crimes
Yes, and where do you see these?
Are you reading peer reviewed journal articles, or media articles about them? ICJ and ICC reports, or media commentary on it? Are you talking with victims and politicians, or what the media says is happening?
This is the point the other poster and I are getting at - your entire information on this conflict is the media that has been shown multiple times to jump to conclusions.
Does it excuse actions from both sides - no. But have a fucking think about what the media is telling you.
Tiktok and telegram have a ton of them unedited videos. Many of them are filmed by soldiers themseves venting about their crimes. There’s zero way to interpret them wrong
Are you saying the videos are AI or something?
No, but I see how my wording can seem that way. Its that when your view of something is based on the media, you can’t dismiss someone bringing new facts to light with that viewpoint formed by the media.
The three sources familiar with the matter told CNN that a senior Egyptian intelligence official named Ahmed Abdel Khalek was responsible for making the changes. Abdel Khalek is a senior deputy to the Egyptian intelligence chief Abbas Kamel, who has been Burns’ counterpart in leading Egypt’s mediation in the ceasefire talks.
One source familiar with the negotiations said Abdel Khalek told the Israelis one thing and Hamas another. More of Hamas’ demands were inserted into the original framework that Israel had tacitly agreed to in order to secure Hamas’ approval, the source said. But the other mediators were not informed; nor, critically, were the Israelis.
Oops?
In the age of secure electronic communications what’s the point of untrusted intermediaries?
PGP the message and send it via some method.
“When tech workers are asked to try diplomacy”
How would you get the other party’s public key?
Publicize/transmit it anywhere / everywhere you have plausible control or you can trace the origin of everything. Radio, newspapers, billboard, official website - multiple sources that all agree with each other should do it. You only need to do it once.
The whole point of a public key is it can be publicized. Use any public publishing method, the more public the better.
I thought this was already known and intentional?
They said Hamas accepted a watered down version of the original deal which was that it included a permanent ceasefire of which Israel refused to agree to.
The point of Egypt being an intermediary was to convince both sides to come to an agreement, so it doesn’t really seem off that they would try changing requirements to see how each side would respond.
We knew the deal was changed, but not by who. (As far as I know.)
America was actively involved in these changes.
Also the reason israel didn’t see them is because israel didn’t send negotiators to Cairo.
