I don’t claim to really understand what the purpose of state atheist policies is, perhaps someone can ELI5 It me, but at least It seems fair honestly, as:
The school is part of the GO! network, which has a general ban on wearing religious symbols.
If it was a ban explicitly on Muslim headscarves it’d be discriminatory. Another question is whether this will be enforced in equal measure on a white kid wearing a cross though…
I think it’s because most religions, by their exclusive natures, are divisive and offensive to many. Many current and historical wars have been fought over religion, so some of their outward symbols carry a political message, whether intended or not.
Wearing outward symbols with a political message is banned among civil servants. If you wonder why, ask yourself how you would feel showing up to the welfare office and asking for service from an employee with a gold Trump necklace or a MAGA hat. Or, more prosaically, imagine getting pulled over by a cop for speeding. You are a Muslim wearing a keffiyeh and the officer is a Jew wearing a yarmulka (skull cap). You know that police have discretion to give you a ticket or a warning. He eyes your keffiyeh skeptically, you respond with a look of defiance, and he gives you a ticket. You might suspect that you got a ticket instead of a warning because the cop is a Jew and he saw your apparent support for the Palestinians. Now, of course, all of this could happen without the overt symbology, but the government would rather not open itself up to such obvious accusations.
These laws ban overt religious symbols only. If you want to wear magic Mormon underwear or a small cross or star of David or crescent moon under your shirt, you can. You can even wear Trump-themed butt plug if you want to.
But fuck all of these cults and their symbols.
Ty! That explains it!
If it was a ban explicitly on Muslim headscarves it’d be discriminatory.
It’s a bit trickier than that. In France schools are secular by law. In principal this is great. In practice chistians never had an issue wearing their cross neckless, even in a visible manner. Muslim girls from conservative families on the other hand can be forced to quit school at a young age, since they are not allowed to wear a scarf there.
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Seems self-defeating to me. Most effective way to fight radical religosity is to educate people. Let em go to school and half of them will be ex-Muslim by college.
Let them go to school
are you talking to the parents?
and half of them will be ex-Muslim by college
Have you seen this happening for christians? They pretty much all go to school.
Yes and education is very positively associated with abandoning a religion. In fact, most highly educated people are not religious. Among scientists it is extremely rare.
It seems obvious to me that the first step to leaving a religion is critical thinking and exposure to other beliefs. That’s entirely what college is for.
In a way I kind of agree with everything you mention.
On the other hand if we think of how long education has existed in Europe, it alone, would not justify the percentage of existing christians now a days.
It is important to take into consideration, who is in charge of the education. In Europe, it’s very often christians. Those in power who are not christians, more often than not, do not dare go against the prevalent religion in europe.
They say that they are christiqns, but they never pray, visit church or follow the bible.
Nah, the government. Trying to de-radicalize people with ingrained beliefs is hard and unlikely. Accept the parent’s wierd beliefs, let the kids go to school wearing whatever the parents want, and you get much less radical kids out the other end.
Yah, every graph of % of religious people is trending solidly down.
It is equal because it applies to everyone, but not equitable because it affects some religions more than others (clothing is more important to some religions than others).
Let’s be honest here. The goal of the 2004 law was to ban the Muslim scarf. It was written in a generic way to be non discriminatory but the goal was clear from the start.
So this GO! network is obviously a total antisemitic organization, right?
Good. Schools should not be abused for religious propagation.
