Australian lawmakers have banned the performance of the Nazi salute in public and outlawed the display or sale of Nazi hate symbols such as the swastika in landmark legislation that went into effect in the country Monday. The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

The crime of publicly performing the Nazi salute or displaying the Nazi swastika is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, according to the Reuters news agency.

Mark Dreyfus, Australia’s Attorney-General, said in a press release Monday that the laws — the first of their kind in the country — sent “a clear message: there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts.”

  • WashedOver
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    “No one in Australia will be allowed to glorify or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis and their evil ideology,” the press release said.

    Glad to see someone mention the Profiting part.

    I’ve always suspected a lot of this was due to grifters stoking these A-holes up to increase sales of the flags, shirts, hats, etc.

    The Brandon thing was a big boon to the Maga grifters as it created more new things one needs to collect to show your true level of being a Patriot.

    You could then change out your Trump flag curtains for the Brandon stuff. Some are brave enough to change them out for the Nazis stuff when the time is right too. It completes the set when combined with the Southern Surrender flags as your curtains or bath towel.

    • JJROKCZ
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      271 year ago

      Should do the same in every nation on earth, nazism cannot be allowed to flourish again. The cost of life is too high

    • Lemminary
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      It’s weird that I have to say this but this should also be done in Latin America.

      Like, no, you’re not Aryan, you’re just pale. And you-- you’re not even pale, wtf? You’d be the first one in the gas chambers, Pedro Contreras!

      • @Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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        41 year ago

        Technically it is illegal here in Canada.

        I work in set Decoration in Canada and dealing with Nazi paraphernalia has a whole documentation process. There’s a handful of prop houses in the States that traffics in the stuff and the paperwork to import it has to be very carefully handled or else it gets seized at the border. Once the stuff is owned by the production company it must be kept under lock and key when it is not onset and removing it from the set or the lockup without proper signed off on authorization is a firing offence.

        • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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          It’s depressing that we have to jump through so many hoops for a stupid symbol that should have been relegated to a laughing stock of losers in the past.

          Sadly, we’ve got a whole new wave of young losers with plastic / lead brain rot that made them susceptible to this shit.

          Just look at those two morons in the article…

      • @Sagifurius@lemm.ee
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        -101 year ago

        The recent round of anti semitism incidents has nothing to do with nazis, though, I suspect the same in Australia, this is probably politicians bring politicians more than anything.

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    Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese condemned the reports of the chants as “horrific” and “appealing” at the time of the incident.

    You mean “appalling”, right? Hope that was a typo.

    • sab
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      Solid typo on the side of CBS. Or, alternatively, a surprising amount of honesty from an Australian politician.

    • MelastSB
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      There is a typo, he meant “terrific” not “horrific”

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    What implications does this have on media using the swastika? I know that for games like Wolfenstein the swastika is everywhere and while it doesn’t really retract from the experience by being absent, it would be really strange for that to suddenly not be OK, especially in the context of Wolfenstein where you’re tearing the Nazis a new one

    • @ours@lemmy.world
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      161 year ago

      German and Austrian versions of the new Wolfenstein games have swastikas and such removed/replaced.

      I remember being pissed off the version sold on Steam to Switzerland was the censored version for no reason other than Switzerland is often stuffed with German and Austrian markets. When I blast sci-fi Nazis to bits, I prefer they look authentic.

        • @ours@lemmy.world
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          I recall that even after the ban was lifted, most companies preferred to continue self-censoring.

      • @hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I find it even more irritating that it is banned in the German version of Bollywood movies. It looks different and more importantly has a different meaning.

        • @ours@lemmy.world
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          That’s so silly. Not that censoring a game based entirely on brutalizing Nazis makes sense.

      • @theonyltruemupf@feddit.de
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        German laws allow swastikas in media under freedom of art and/or education. So depending on the context, it is legal in games. Foreign video game companies just don’t want to take any risk and have their game blocked because of nazi symbolism so they rather just remove it than hope the courts see their game for the form if art it may be.

    • @DillyDaily@lemmy.world
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      The actual law bans using the swastika to “glorify or profit from Nazi idiology”.

      Wolfenstein would not be impacted by the ban because at the core of the gameplay, the Nazis are the bad guys. It does not glorify the Nazis or celebrate them.

      Sure Bathesda is profiting from the game, but they aren’t profiting from the glorification of Nazi idiology, they’re profiting from people’s desire to shoot zombie Nazis in the face.

      • @StorminNorman@lemmy.world
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        Nah, it’s easy to imagine that. Multiplayer. The Nazi team wins. Swastikas everywhere. Pretty sure it’s why cod no longer has swastikas in multiplayer anymore (and if I’m remembering rightly, they kept it in the single player as they felt it wasn’t offensive as it is given with a hell of a lot of context that multiplayer rounds simply don’t have).

      • @platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
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        I wonder if those chants are actually anti-semitic or if they are just trying to trigger the people from Israel.

        I feel if people are pro-Palestine, they are against discrimination and abuse of power, which would make it pretty strange if they actually want to do the same to jews.

        • @Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
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          101 year ago

          The issue is that there are a lot of people who are already antisemitic and want to hijack the pro-Palestine movement to spread their own message or recruit new antisemites.

        • @Syntha@sh.itjust.works
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          41 year ago

          You’re so right! Chanting “Gas the Jews” is just a bit of trolling. No antisemitism to be found here!

    • Optional
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      Man i remember being an absolute dipshit ignorant child. I had that same butthead grin too. Time helped.

  • Silverseren
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    I mean, I’m fine with that. That seems like something that should have been done a while ago.

    It’s when they try and extend such things to saying any criticism of Israel is illegal, like what Germany is trying right now.

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          It’s not a crime to not support Israel, just taboo and against stated policy. Policy isn’t law though

          • @Menu@slrpnk.netOP
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            I would not say it’s a taboo within the German population to speak out against the current Israeli government.

            • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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              Nope. Why would it be taboo to criticise Benjamin von Papen and Itamar Ben-Hitler. The state is doing that, officially rebuking e.g. Ben-Gvir’s ethnic cleansing statements.

            • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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              I think the timing would be a little problematic.

              So for a while now Germany has had some laws that may have been overly strict in an abundance of caution over antisemitism. Then there’s a spike in antisemitism worldwide so Germany chooses to remove these law in this particular point in history? Why? Because people are so very angry at Israel right now they can’t think about anything rationally?

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          It’s a poorly written article that confuses with its wrong translation of “Staatsraison” and omits the classification of Samidoun as a wing of PFLP, declared a terrorist organization by both the EU and the US. Supporting terrorist organizations is illegal. People getting canceled does not necessarily mean they did something illegal, and there hasn’t been a discussion about criminalizing criticism of Israel.

          Criticizing Netanyahu’s actions is very popular in Germany. It’s just true that the German government does not do that enough.

    • @Menu@slrpnk.netOP
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      I’m sure there will be exceptions like in Germany:

      Symbols known to fall under the law are: the swastika as a symbol of the Nazi Party, prohibited in all variants, including mirrored, inverted etc. (exceptions are only applied to swastikas used as religious symbols in Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain temples)

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

      Have you heard about the paradox of tolerance?

    • @Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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      The moment they ban a swastika, it’s a slippery slope to… Absolutely nothing.

      There’s lots of things banned.

      Freeze peach isn’t world wide. Try it. Go to Thailand and insult the monarchy.

      And even without the ban, some concepts/terms have a “fuck around and find out” around them. Try pointing a toy gun at a cop, does that infringe on your freedom?

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    other hate symbols

    such as? am I going to prison for owning a black flag?

    The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

    I will not stop praising or glorifying climate protestors laying across lanes of traffic. you being a little bit late to your soul sucking 9 to 5 isn’t an act of terrorism.
    The word Terrorist is already used as a truncheon against dissidents. Convicted Terrorist is about to become the 3rd gender in Australia.

    • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      On the internet words like terrorist, fascist, and genocide seemingly has lost all meaning. It’s just an expression of dumb emotions.

      But in a court of law these words do have defined meanings. The internet != real life.

      And yeah a law in which the intent is to reduce antisemitism by banning symbols carried by antisemitic people may result in it being illegal for you to display your black flag in public if that same flag as carried by people who promote violence against Jews.

      This might trigger some introspection in some people about why they’re in possession of symbols that are also carried by people that promote racist violence. Is there is significant difference between your black flag and a swastika in terms of how those symbols affect people?

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        The big problem with these laws is that the people legally defining these words are including non violent acts such as protesting.

        if I say we should abolish the senate that’s not terrorism … unless you’re a senator.

        and if you know anything about the black flag you know I don’t stop at the senate.

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          Can you point out any examples of this happening in Australia?

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            open any legislation, the first thing they do is define any words they use that diverge from common use.

            • BreakDecks
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              C’mon, you’re making the claim here. If it’s as easy as opening any legislation then it shouldn’t be hard for you to provide an example.

    • @jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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      While blocking roads isn’t terrorism, being late can have serious consequences for people. Not everyone has the ability to show up late with no consequences. Trivializing people getting fired, getting smaller raises, being late/ missing medical appointments,… is not going to help your cause.

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      That was a very underrated game. The ragdoll physics was hilarious.

        • qyron
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          Is it wrong to make a light hearted, with no ill intent comment?

          But that symbol/symbology is part of many countries flags. Look up Angola.

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              51 year ago

              I am perfectly capable of reading.

              And just to aggravate you a little further: there is a communist party in my country, that still sports that simbology with no evil conotation. It is still a symbol of labour.