Peter (fl. 1863) (also known as Gordon, or “Whipped Peter”, or “Poor Peter”) was an escaped American slave who was the subject of photographs documenting the extensive keloid scarring of his back from whippings received in slavery. The “scourged back” photo became one of the most widely circulated photos of the abolitionist movement during the American Civil War and remains one of the most notable photos of the 19th-century United States.

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    So, after I saw Trump’s remarks on Slavery yesterday, I turned to my 8 year old and asked him “was slavery good or bad?”

    And he was surprised by the question and said “Bad. Definitely bad.” And I asked if he had to think hard about that answer at all and he said “No… Why would anyone think slavery was good?” And I responded with I am trying to figure it out myself.

    Trump doesn’t see humans. He sees property.

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      As much as I hate to say something that has any possibility of being interpreted as defending Trump, I don’t think he was trying to say that slavery was good (I’m referring specifically to his “museums talk too much about slavery being bad” comments from the other day). I think he was attempting to express, in his haphazard and thoughtless manner, a belief that is widely held among certain people, specifically white rural people. Namely, that focusing on the negative takes away from the positive.

      Now, I don’t agree with that sentiment but I do think it’s helpful to understand the intent, or at least how his base is likely to interpret such comments. You and I probably share the belief that understanding history in all of its ugliness is necessary to both appreciate how we got to where we are and prevent us from making similar mistakes in the future. His base doesn’t care about any of that. All they know is that talking about slavery makes them uncomfortable so they would rather ignore it. It’s not as much about glorifying or whitewashing slavery as it is about avoiding discomfort. A lot of the time they will end up doing one of the first two in order to avoid the topic but that appears to me to be a simple attempt at justifying their desire to avoid the subject entirely.

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        Yeah, I don’t think so. He is trying to erase white guilt which is the only thing that is holding back a lot of people from wholesale attacking minorities.

        What your saying is a gross simplification and not at all what the goal of this all is. His administration is literally trying to erase history and roll back whatever meager protections anyone other than white males enjoy.

        This also is about people not receiving consequences for their actions. Trump has never received any consequences so why should his country. It is a denial of reality. The US is not a place of systemic racism when clearly it is.

        Trump may be a bumbling old man but this is straight out of the white supremacist’s playbook.

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          I don’t disagree with your assessment of Trump and his goals, or at least what the goals of the people he’s surrounded by are. However, I’ve been talking about how I believe most of his base pereceives his comments which is usually pretty different from what he’s literally saying. His base hears what they want to hear in whatever he says and in this case I think that is “I don’t need to force myself to confront an uncomfortable topic” not “slavery is good”.

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            I see your point about what some people may think about what he has said.

            No one is forcing anyone to confront the horrors of slavery, what is happening here is they are trying to erase it. You literally have to go to a museum and look in the specific section about slavery to see a watered down version of what happened. Even this apparently is too much though.

            So while he may be whitewashing the debate with statements like we focus too much on slavery being bad (which we don’t and also it was very bad) the reality is the administration is busy erasing history by using its clout to remove historical references to minorities and women.

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    Why are we always talking only about the bad effects of slavery when there were so many good?

    /s if not obvious.

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      It’s that damned Smithsonian. Always talking about how bad slavery was, none of the upside.

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      Florida teaches that slavery ‘allowed black people to learn important trades valuable in their later years’. Seriously. Yes. They do.

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    Damn WOKE Lemmy … where everything discussed is how horrible our Country is, how bad Slavery was, and how unaccomplished the downtrodden have been — Nothing about Success, nothing about Brightness, nothing about the Future.

    ~PS. /s~

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      Right, I mean what about all the benefits that black people received from being slaves.

      Also /s because we live in a shitty timeline.

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    Pictures like this had the same radicalizing effect to Northern liberals as the photos of starving Palestinians have on US/UK modern day liberals.

    Incidentally, the IDF has been systematically targeting and assassinating journalists throughout Gaza and the West Bank.

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      Or a current news paper considering slavery still exists in the Middle East and Africa.

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      Or a textbook of what is happening in the occupied parts of Ukraine now in 2025. Corpses repatriated to the west have similar traces of torture in them.

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        What does Ukraine have to do with the slavery of history in America, numbnuts lnfao

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          Why are you so upset about this? They are not the same situation but both are terrible. Fuck the US and fuck Russia too. Fuck oppressors.

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          Just take a look at the picture in the post. You can see the physical traces slavery has caused to this man. And those traces look about like that every time some people think they are worth much more than some other people,

          What’s being done by the Russia in Ukraine is mostly* not slavery, but it’s a situation where one people thinks its worth more than another. What these two things have to do with each other is physical torture of human beings, for similar reasons.

          *) apparently some of the kidnapped children have been used in slave work of some kind, or at least have been meant to be, judging from the Russian-compiled catalogue of kidnapped Ukrainian children that saw it important to tell of many children how obeyant and docile they are

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          Regardless of whether or not you agree, that’s not a “whatabout”, that’s an and.

          There are many things where it might be a good idea to preserve physical records before they are destroyed and the digital ones are altered.

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    I watched the movie about him, it was pretty nice. It’s called “Emancipation”

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      Not to mention he supposedly made the people that did this and loves us at the same time. Yeah right.

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    Hey, at least he learned a lot of valuable skills, amirite?

    Please tell me that the /s is obvious…

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      Yeah, most slaves actually super enjoyed the experience and wanted to keep being slaves when the North got them all fired

      Also /s