• @Matt3999@lemmy.world
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    Just imagine if there wasn’t a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    4124 days ago

    In Europe Tesla isn’t even #1 on EV anymore, they have been surpassed by VAG aka Volkswagen Group.
    Depending on how you compare, they are probably a little bit more expensive, but also higher quality.

  • @turnip@lemm.ee
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    Musk already got what he wanted. He bought Trump, and Trump will give Palantir every ounce of government data to analyze, which was likely a sticking point for Palantir to cement them as the only viable product for the US governments future military applications. Once pandoras box is open for classified data its a little bit hard to close it, especially once they gain a dependence on it.

    Palantir then buys his crappy xAI platform that recently bought Twitter.

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    after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more. he kept it long enough until trumps admin blocked any funding for it, through ELAINE CHAO.

  • queermunist she/her
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    At some point prices will get so low that it’ll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it’s a Tesla.

    • @ripcord@lemmy.world
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      324 days ago

      They’re already selling at virtually no markup. They’re also old, very mature production lines. There’s not much more price drop to be had, unless Tesla starts selling them at a loss.

      • @NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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        Even at these lower prices, Tesla makes more money on their EVs than their competitors. That’s part of why the others haven’t been able to expand and compete as quickly. Expanding an expensive vehicle becomes a bigger liability as you have less pricing room. GM is only planning to have their first EV profitable year this year, and I’ll believe it when I see it.

        The Cybertruck is probably another story though, I don’t know if that’s profitable at the lower than expected sales rate.

        Edit: E.g the Bolt everyone loves from GM never made GM money. That’s why they didn’t sell more. They did learn from it though so it wasn’t a total loss for them.

      • queermunist she/her
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        Well either they sell them at a loss or they just let them sit on lots forever.

        Tesla would rather recoup some revenue than just scrap all their remaining inventory.

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      They had near 100% EV market share just a few years back.

      Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.

        • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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          124 days ago

          Hmm. Long term is a more difficult constraint.

          I think short term can be just as effective at damaging Musk.

          It’s hard to be mobile with deflated tyres.

          Even just a dirty windshield and rear camera (on the top of the tailgate) will reduce Tesla share price without running the risk of a prison sentence.

  • @poopkins@lemmy.world
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    320 days ago

    What I’ve learned from insightful interactions in this thread is that Teslas are in fact the best car in existence, bar none. This whole situation about Elon Musk deciding to speak up as a fascist is just all very unfortunate. Other than the fascism thing, the only nits with Tesla is the image, and the countless broken promises, deceit and outright fraud should be ignored because other companies lie and cheat, too.