Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he remains “ready to sign” a US-Ukraine minerals deal despite leaving the White House without an agreement following a contentious meeting with Trump.
Speaking in London after a European leaders’ summit, Zelensky emphasized that their fractious meeting only benefited Putin.
Refusing to discuss territorial concessions, he stated the “best security guarantees are a strong Ukrainian army.”
Responding to calls from Senator Graham that he resign, Zelensky quipped he is “exchangeable for NATO” membership, saying this would mean he had “fulfilled my mission.”
Remember when Ukraine made a deal to give up it’s nuclear weapons in exchange for security? pepperidge farm remembers.
Thanks for posting a source 😁
Remember when the Arabs revolted against the ottomans for independence. PepperRidge farm remembers all western lies
Yeah, Zelensky was never against a mineral deal. His whole reason of not signing was because the US doesn’t want to give Ukraine assurances for where Russia breaks the peace treaty again.
Quite literally what Trump is trying to do is muscle the wealth of Ukraine away from them and leave them with nothing. If Zelensky agrees to that, thousands of Ukrainians will have died for nothing.
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Any deal with the current US administration isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.
He totally should agree to whatever, and just reneg on the deal once he gets what he wants. It’s what Trump would do anyways, fuck any actual “deal” you have with dishonorable people.
Remember in diablo II when you had to drop the item of the floor to trade and people waited for the other one to drop the item first then steal the item? That’s geopolitics in a nutshell lol.
That was Diablo 1. In Diablo II they had the trade window.
And besides, you don’t just drop it right next to them! You both drop your stuff a screen apart and then walk past each other to pick it up.
I disagree. Democrats would likely take advantage of the agreement if they win the next election.
We don’t make deals with fascist states, we will take advantage of them if the opportunity arises.
That’s the beauty, it’s not just laying there. If security stops, mining stops. Make them pay for everything to setup in that deposit right between Donsk and Mariupol. Make the foreigners take all the risk and if they get bombed, they should have made a better deal.
He’s better off without a US deal. Trump won’t do shit to help him. That’s as good as signing a deal with Putin.
True as Trump might outsource mining operations to Russian state owned companies…
Ukraine will give up their natural resources for nothing.
Russia will still be the aggressor and will still do Russian things. There will be no peace deal with the U.S.
Russia doesn’t care, they own the White House at this point. The White House does as Putin commands them to.
Does he still think the US will honour any agreement he makes with them that will harm Russia? I get that he’s doing the best he can for his country, but I don’t see there’s anything left to salvage here. Trump is working for Russia completely.
I think he’s mostly banking on what comes after Trump assuming our democracy survives. That and if there were Americans on the ground in the country it may be an effective deterrent against Russian aggression just to have American bodies there that could get exploded and bring the USA into a shooting war on Ukraine’s side.
That’s my take on it anyways. Plus it could potentially be beneficial to both countries if the USA were to actually play ball and not be dickheads. Ukraine probably, idk I’m not an economist/read up that much, does not have all the equipment and men and experience to exploit all their mineral wealth. Bringing in American contractors to help isn’t the worst idea, it just needs to be done right for it to make sense.
You can’t say this publicly. Rules of diplomacy and there are other allies that we need to work with.
Everyone in Ukraine itself believes exactly that. I am no mind reader, but I am almost certain this would include Zelenskyy as well.
I think what is happening is that Ukraine believes that signing the deal will result in a range of outcomes from neutral to positive, depending how and when the US renegs on their side of it. But without the deal the outcomes range from neutral to very negative, so making the deal is the clear right move even if you believe it won’t do anything.
I wish he wouldn’t. I know he doesn’t feel like he has much choice but to try and deal with the US, but as a USIAN, I wish he wouldn’t trust this administration. They’re going to rugpull him and the entire country of Ukraine literally whenever they want, they’re going to try and make Ukraine a neocolonial asset, and I just wish that he wouldn’t grant this administration the legitimacy of trying to negotiate with them in good faith.
This should be a referendum. Zelensky has staked his reputation and legitimacy on winning this war. If the question is independence and more war or become a colony of Russia then a lot would be on board. If the question is become a colony of Russia and peace or become a colony of America and more war, I think that’s a tougher call to make.
This should be a referendum.
You can not hold a referendum during an active war.
Why, the U.S. has had many elections during wars, many of which become a referendum on whether to stay in the war. The 1864 election had candidates openly advocating for ending the civil war. The 1968 election had multiple nominees on the democratic side advocating to end the Vietnam War, and the winner Nixon was campaigning on ending the war "with honor.
The people should have a say in whether there country continues a war, to say otherwise is undemocratic and patronizing.
The people should have a say in whether there country continues a war,
Yes, including the people displaced and oh here is a thought, the ones in occupied land.
I agree, displaced person’s should get a vote. Ideally people in the occupied territories would too, but thats just not feasible. Just like how in 1864 the blacks in the south shouldve gotten to vote since they were all now freed under the emancipation proclamation, and they had the most at stake in the conflict, but the confederacy was never going to allow that. That doesn’t mean the north shouldn’t have had an election because not everyone could participate.
The people in the occupied territories may not be as pro-ukrainian as you might think though, a lot of them probably just want the war to be over and for the bombs to stop falling on them. Hell putin might allow an election if he knows they’ll vote for peace.
