• @peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    1284 months ago

    I heard about the wildfires yesterday, and thought: “ain’t it the rich people who have homes in that area?”

    :)

    :( to all the people who aren’t rich I’m sorry

      • @hobovision@lemm.ee
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        534 months ago

        All of the fires are :(

        While the palisades fire is showing a lot of very rich folks that their money doesn’t make them immune to fire, there are a lot of relatively regular people who were barely hanging on to their homes in a very expensive area who lost everything and could be financially ruined forever.

        Don’t get me wrong, vanishinlgy few of those in the palisades were poor before the fire. But a lot could be now if they were uninsured or if their insurance fucks them over.

        There’s a bunch of apartment buildings in the area that burned down too. Families who were protected by rent control lost their apartment and now where do they go?

    • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      Lots of actors whose work you appreciated lost their homes. I’m not defending rich people, but many of these folks actually earned it, not all inherited or squatted on wealth. Anthony Hopkins, Cary Elwes, John Goodman, Jeff Bridges, Billy Crystal among others lost homes. I’m sure a lot of amazing Hollywood memorabilia went up in flames too.

      E: Why the negativity? Just generic hating on rich people with no nuance? I draw the line at when people use their wealth, personally or politically, to put downward pressure on people’s wages, benefits, and quality of life, doubly so if they personally benefit from it like getting a bonus for layoffs. I don’t hate on someone winning at life as long as they aren’t keeping others down to win more. If you want to hate on wealth save it for the execs trying to use AI to put these people out of a job. People like Goodman walked the line to support their unions. Show a little flexibility before you throw more torches on the fire.

        • @Delphia@lemmy.world
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          54 months ago

          Except the things that cant be replaced with money.

          Your kids first shoes, wedding photos, family heirlooms, the funny thing about rich people is that they are still people.

            • @idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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              -54 months ago

              Cary elwes is rich enough to you that you doubt his personhood? I have to assume his net worth is seven digits(according to those celebrity net worth sites, $6-8 million. Idk if those are at all accurate, but it feels reasonable for his career). Doctors, lawyers, dentists, accountants, plumbers, contractors, septic tank servicers, and a fuckload of other people are in that range.

              That’s a lot of people you’re not sure are people. I get that it was probably not earnest and I’m ruining the joke, but that’s too broad a dehumanization brush for me to find it funny.

              • Queen HawlSera
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                14 months ago

                6-8 Million isn’t considered rich, I’m talking about the Elon Musk “Vacations on the moon” billionaires.

                • @idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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                  This is in a thread talking about how Cary elwes (and others ranging from $45M-$160M, but all of them are skilled actors who work a lot) lost their homes, so you might want to specify that.

                  I don’t know if that’s even true though, we can see Elon Musk’s super immature but definitely human emotions on display. He freaked out about his trans daughter and went on an anti-woke crusade, which is depressingly common. There are definitely some ways in which he does NOT think like the rest of us and I think he’s totally lacking morals, but sometimes people are evil.

                  Edit: that said, musk doesn’t need my defense. Maybe he’s got some humanity left, maybe not. Either way, he’s an active danger to the rest of us as it is. Perhaps he wouldn’t be after aggressive (99.99%, he’d still a multimillionaire) taxes or after going to jail for corruption. Hopefully we’ll see.

                • @Delphia@lemmy.world
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                  24 months ago

                  So you arent talking about the specific rich people who did lose houses and their irreplaceable personal posessions in these fires? Your talking about Elon Musk who is completely unrelated to the topic and has lost nothing in the fires for some reason?

      • @JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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        34 months ago

        Unless all of their net worth burned up in the fire it might be difficult for some people to feel bad for them when they’ll just buy another house from their luxury hotel room, or more likely, second or third home.

  • @Ultraviolet@lemmy.world
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    974 months ago

    That’s unfortunate, I liked Oppenheimer. Always sucks to find out someone involved was a total dickweasel.

    • @TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
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      504 months ago

      There’s just so many people that work on movies and finance them that there has got to be a 100℅ chance that every great movie has a dickweasle wedged in the process somewhere.

      • @AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        I’d wager that both Clerks and Kentucky Fried Movie might have avoided dickweasles. That being said, to quote Kevin Smith about Clerks, both of them “are barely movies.”

      • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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        -54 months ago

        You gotta separate the art from the artist. When one of my favorite bands got canceled because the lead singer was into the young ladies, I tried to remember there were four other dudes in the band, as well as presumably a lot of behind the scenes folks who assisted with touring and studio production. Same with movies. You can denounce people for being shitty, but at the same time recognize they were a part of something great.

        • @cokeslutgarbage@lemmy.world
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          64 months ago

          Lol what does “young ladies” mean here? Like teenage adults or like girl kids. If you’re talking about a child abuser, describing him as a man who is “into the young ladies” is super dishonest and makes my skin crawl. If this musician is a child abuser, don’t sugar coat your language.

          Gross!

          • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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            14 months ago

            To me a child is single digits. You’re right though, 15 year olds, whatever term encapsulates that age.

            • @M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca
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              54 months ago

              Ephebophilia can be used as a distinction from pedophilia. Voicing that distinction makes you sound like a pedophile though.

              • @CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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                I don’t think it’s pointless to say there are degrees of wrong.

                I know someone who cheated on their spouse with a willing 16 year old, which is legal here. This situation spawned arguments about morality that went on for years. Here’s a question to help those black & white thinkers break out of their shell a bit: which was worse? The 16 year old or the cheating? Does it change anything if the marriage had become sexless (spouse’s fault)? What if the 16 year old was or was not a virgin?

                Degrees of wrong.

              • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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                14 months ago

                I think it’s definitely wrong across the board. I honestly think 40 year olds dating 20 year olds is weird and I’m going to think differently of that 40 year old, but the laws have drawn this arbitrary line at 18, and so here we are.

                It’s all fucked up, but sexually assaulting a literal child versus sexually assaulting via coercion a 15 year old feels like a distinction worth making. You can be Lost Prophets pedophile or Brand New pedophile, they are vastly different degrees of awful, despite both being awful.

        • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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          44 months ago

          I don’t know about “gotta” but often, I agree. Picasso was a piece of shit and a great artist. I think it’s actually counter productive to take the binary good/bad route in cases like his. The guy is famous already, if we were to try and reverse that, we not only remove art from the world in a sense, but we also decrease society’s overall ability to discuss the light and dark side of things.

              • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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                -44 months ago

                Every art historian and critic and fan

                Lol! You mean those people whose entire living depends on pretending the (so-called) “art world” isn’t 90% hype and 10% “Great Man” fallacy?

                I can throw a brick on deviantart.com and hit someone that’s more talented than Picasso was (well, you could before it got swamped with fake AI), but none of them gets hyped up by a scam industry selling feelgood to rich people, do they?

                • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                  34 months ago

                  Your ignorance (and contrarianism) shows.

                  If someone can take a look at Picasso’s works and say they suck, their opinion is to be ignored. So thanks for that ❤️

          • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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            84 months ago

            I don’t know about the guy you’re responding to but I personally stopped expecting consistency from those kinds of people a long time ago. I’m 100% confident there is at least one white guy doing exactly what you described at this very moment.

            • @vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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              24 months ago

              I want to purge the (British) Saxons do I count? Mostly the oligarchs and aristocrats but im sure I can find some working class ones deserving of getting fed to the woodchiper.

  • @pyre@lemmy.world
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    444 months ago

    it’s weird how an outright genocide, surprisingly recognized as such by nearly the entire world as it is happening, would cause people to voluntarily reveal themselves to be just cartoonishly evil.

    • @Anticorp@lemmy.world
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      544 months ago

      Oh he’s far worse than this, and has been for at least a decade. He lost his damned mind a while ago.

    • @4am@lemm.ee
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      384 months ago

      Really? Even Family Guy has been making fun of his for his racist rants for like 20 years at this point. He’s like famously one of the biggest dipshits in Hollywood

      • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        TBH I thought that was part of the joke about him replacing the dog who is racist because I guess some dogs just are.

  • Queen HawlSera
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    274 months ago

    James Woods basically having Disney turn Hades into his personal self-insert character actually makes the parts of Kingdom Hearts where you beat the shit out of him that much more rewarding

  • @bluewing@lemm.ee
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    124 months ago

    Meh. He’s got money and can move to Texas or maybe Cancun. I hear the weather and electrical grid in Texas is fine this time of year.

  • @mlg@lemmy.world
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    104 months ago

    I don’t know how much input he had into the movie, but the fact that it still included a rather large portion of Oppenheimer trying to prevent a nuclear arms race as well as being persecuted for his support for socialism and uprisings in other countries is quite ironic.

    • @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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      The title executive producer can basically mean anything. It could be a studio head who approved funding for the movie but isn’t involved in production at all. Or it’s given to someone who secured the script and pitched it to a studio and did the pre production. There is no exact definition of the title. Like Steve Jobs is an executive producer on Toy Story only because he bought Pixar and funded the movie. And nowadays you often see one of the actors with an executive producer title to boost the marketing.

    • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      -164 months ago

      Oppenheimer has been out for a long time. It is what James Woods is most known for. Boycotting will not have much effect anymore. Maybe his next work.

      • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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        374 months ago

        Oppenheimer has been out for a long time.

        If a bit over a year is a “long time” then I’m a lot older than you lol.

        It is what James Woods is most known for

        uh, whhhat? that is certainly not true. I’ve known of him for like 20 years as a (shitty) actor and had no clue he was involved with Oppenheimer whatsoever, despite seeing that movie in the theater. From IMBD:

        In some ways, the executive producer isn’t super involved anyhow. My understanding is that they just drum up money and try to persuade suits that a picture should be made. I’m sure he got paid 100 times his worth though…

          • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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            44 months ago

            I am guessing you’re younger than me :)

            The Virgin Suicides, for example, was pretty popular and well known to me and my circle.

            • Flying Squid
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              14 months ago

              Videodrome was a pretty big deal in the 80s. It basically made David Cronenberg’s career. He got to do The Dead Zone and The Fly after that. The fact that Debbie Harry was naked in it didn’t hurt. (I wonder if the person above knows who that is?)

              • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                14 months ago

                Yeah videodrome is one I need to rewatch. I think I only ever saw it 20 years ago, while very baked :)

                I gotta admit Debbie Harry isn’t a familiar name to me either 😬

        • @geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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          -144 months ago

          I doubt any of those movies are currently more known than Oppenheimer. The listed movies have James Woods participating as an actor. Whereas with Oppenheimer, James was bankrolling it. Executive producers can have more influence than producers. It depends whether they decide to be hands-on or only see the movie as an investment.

          • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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            154 months ago

            You can see right there in the IMDB screenshot they use the same language you did (“known for”). I think IMDB has their finger on the pulse of how people talk about entertainment. Many people in the movie industry are most known for things from years ago but still work frequently. Like would you say Christopher Lloyd is most known for whatever semi-popular thing from the last couple of years he had a role in, or Back to the Future?

            You are right that EP’s vary in involvement, but even if I had known he was EP in that film, I still would’ve had the same question I originally asked.

            • Flying Squid
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              Well I don’t know that he’s “known for” John Carpenter’s Vampires. Especially since most people didn’t understand the awesomeness of basically 90 minutes of pure vampire ass-kicking and the movie tanked. But anyway, that is his “most known for” credit.

              I mean… How about Casino? How about Nixon? How about Contact? Even Once Upon a Time in America is more notable than that. He was even nominated for two Oscars (Salvador and Ghosts from the Past) and neither of those apparently count as more notable than John Carpenter’s Vampires.

              I mean fuck James Woods, but the IMDB is ridiculous.

              • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                14 months ago

                I can agree with you that the way imdb ranks those “known for” works is wonky at times, but iirc you can click the heading and see a longer list and though the ranking is still weird, it usually does list the movies I would expect.

                James Woods is one of those actors I’ve heard mentioned many times and seen in movies occasionally but I’ve not thought too much about him. In this case I saw movies in the list that I had heard of so it didn’t strike me as the wonkiest but I’ll take your word for it.

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                  I’m just saying… two Oscar nominations weren’t mentioned, a movie that bombed at the box office and almost no one remembers got the number one spot.

                  This does kind of make me want to see if Vampires holds up as a movie now.

          • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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            104 months ago

            Oppenheimer may be well known, but I don’t know if anybody had any idea it was produced by James Woods. He’s not known for that movie by any stretch.

      • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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        94 months ago

        It is what James Woods is most known for.

        And Matt Damon is best known for Thor: Love and Thunder?

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          Sean Connery, best known for the animated film Sir Billi

          Michael J. Fox, best known for the 2023 movie “Still”

          Jaleel White best known for the game show “Flip Side”

          I can do this all day.