• @IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    Layla Moran on the left is a member of their Liberal Democrats and someone who police were called out to when they allegedly beat their partner over an IT issue.

    Ed Milliband in the middle is a minister and former leader of the Labour party. Maybe not the biggest leftie but enabled members to vote for their leader which paved the way for Jeremy Corbyn to win.

    Based on the above two points, this feels to be quite badly labeled if you know who they are.

  • @JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    I don’t get lib as an insult. Seems like pretty much everyone on Lemmy is on liberal side of center. I’ve seen some hexbear users use it to refer to anyone who isn’t as tankie as they are, but I don’t get it.

  • @Rooty@lemmy.world
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    Generic antiestablishmentarism isn’t going to put you on a watchlist, this isn’t the 1950s. Glowies have better tech nowadays.

    • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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      If you wanna be on a list, start collecting old army field manuals. It’s one thing to say “we should start fire bombing McDonald’s,” it’s another thing to say “we should start fire bombing mcdonald’s, and here’s instructions on how to do it”

      Not that we should be firebombong McDonald’s lol I would never recommend that

      But I would recommend reading TM 31-201-1, especially pages 78-82

      • @WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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        Want to know how Luigi found what hotel Brian Thompson stayed at? It’s right in his “manifesto.” He used social engineering.

        Social engineering is when you just take advantage of people’s natural predilictions to give you info or access that you shouldn’t have. For example, if he were to just call up UHC and ask them where the CEO was staying, they would likely just have called the police. Instead, he had to think of some plausible reason that someone might need that info through unofficial channels. I have no idea how he actually did it, but for example, Thompson was a famous womanizer who cheated on his wife. He was your standard sleazy executive scumbag. That can be exploited.

        *Hi, CEO’s office? I’m John Doe, an underling over at the CFO’s office. My boss wants to give Brian a special surprise at this year’s company meeting. We’re thinking of hiring a few girls to come over and keep him company one evening. I need to know where to have them sent. I would send an email or look up the info in our records system, but, as you can understand, it’s best if there’s no paper trail. Can you let me know what hotel he’s staying at?"

        These social engineering methods are the same tools scammers use, but they work just as well for assassins.

  • @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    105 months ago

    I’m left leaning, aka a “lib” and I’m a fan of things that are anti-capitalist.

    I think capitalism has outlived it’s usefulness, just like religion did when we created modern criminal forensics.

    At this point, we have so much in excess that if we did things in a reasonable and logical way, nobody would be homeless, nobody would go hungry.

    The people with the power (money) don’t want things to change, because they get to stay in power that way. The only way to oust them is to overthrow the system.

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      This is not a lib mindset. It’s at least progressive if not further left. Libs will fight and die for capitalism, but they want the messaging to be nice about it.

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    If you’re on your deathbed, and looking back, you haven’t been on at least one watch list, will you be able to say you have truly lived at all?

  • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Was it intentional that your next post was about Krampus?

    I watched a holiday movie recently that said he wanted to misuse the watch list, I mean naughty list or whatever Nick used these days lol. Think it was Red One. Had a depthy cast, not that usually makes good movies, but it wasn’t bad

    • @VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world
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      Hard to say. Her public attitude towards a lot of issues is fantastic but she comes from money. She wouldn’t be able to pursue her personal interests and campaigns without the wealth she has.

      • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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        She spent her entire life since 15 as a peaceful protestor, she’s not on your side if you’re some “burn it down, both sides bad” idiot.

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          Both sides are fucking trash. I’m not defending the cowards in blue ties that call themselves my constituents, but don’t have the gall to actually propel their own members up the ranks if they aren’t corporate Democrat lemmings that ignore genocide when it’s profitable.

          Yeah, Republicans suck, but no sir am I calling those cowards my representatives. If Trump can walk through the Republican party and rebrand it as a fascist hellscape, then a firebrand from the Democratic party needs to sweep through ours and turn us back into a unionist, worker-powered party of the people.

          Until then, they’re just broken, flaccid, garbage parading around as the left and giving billionaires handshakes and passes in the background, where climate change is convenient and human decency is only on the menu if the budget allows.

          Voted Dem btw, don’t even. I know the value of evil and more evil. It doesn’t make the former preferable. Fuck Pelosi and Trump. Raise up Bernie and AOC.

            • GHiLA
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              Are you coming back with an argument or…?

              I’ll let you prepare. Come back whenever.

              • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                Turtles all the way down

                When a person like you disassociates from reality to this extent, there is no reasoning with them.

                Republicans are worse and you know that not voting Democrat will cause you harm, but you let Republicans win anyways. That’s just Masochism plain and simple.

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                  I voted Democrat, illiteracy-boy. I knew the consequences plain as day.

                  Go read the OP again, I’m just not apologizing for their fucking failures. Maybe if you weren’t so brainwashed by their virtue signalling, you could second guess them as well as you do the Republicans.

                  They’re both our enemy. Remember Biden denouncing Israeli genocide?

                  Me neither.

                  Remember Biden doing literally anything to curb wealth inequality or pull power from corporations?

                  Funny. Me neither.

                  Democrats treat symptoms with band-aids to keep you strung along, and apparently, it’s working.

                  Friendly rminder that FEMA already ditched NC. $750 a person?

                  What did Biden do with that executive Immunity?

                  N o t h i n g.

                  Fuck off with your lemming shit and go drink more blue Kool aid.