Apple is the latest in a string of firms and governments to go after the hacking tool firm.
Mwalimu
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67d

The same company that has been punishing self-repairs. A closed-ecosystem in the name of security was not enough to keep off the “bad guys”.

Controlled opposition. People should really learn to identify this stuff. Even the Facebook Papers was controlled opposition, and Pegasus simply managed to highlight USA’s funding of cyberwar capabilities of their vassal state Israel. USA is looking bad publicly, so they will cull one of their sheeps NSO Group. Cellebrite, Candiru and others are still very active.

vassal state Israel

I’m not saying you’re wrong suggesting USA and Israel (and France and some others) work hand-in-hand, but Israel is not exactly a vassal state. It’s got political autonomy, a strong military industrial complex of its own, and of course its own colonies.

@brombek@lemmy.ml
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47d

Governments should see NSO as a national security thread and act on them but they are their clients :D

Jedrax
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16d

I was gonna say, gov’t is what uses them!

@pingveno@lemmy.ml
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18h

Smaller governments use them. The big boys have their own department that far outstrip what the NSO is doing.

@pingveno@lemmy.ml
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37d

Despite NSO claims to only allow the Pegasus spyware to be used on criminals and terrorists, this was shown to not be the case. Activists, journalists, and politicians have all been targeted. Now Apple is bringing the fight to the aggressor in the place where it really hurts - their pocketbooks.

@spla@lemmy.cat
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17d

And Apple have a lot more money so will be funny

@sibachian@lemmy.ml
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I know people give Apple a lot of shit (and they deserve it, all big companies should be public property). But as far as capitalists go, they’re the only megacorp that isn’t entirely evil from the ground up. They could choose to do none of these stunts, and they’d still make billions, yet here we are.

✨ krawieck ✨
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26d

i have to strongly disagree. they do a lot of stuff that would be regarded as evil: making their devices as hard to repair as possible, fucking over independent developers, pushing their subscriptions inside of iOS (“get Apple Arcade/Music/TV Free for 3 Months!” with hopes that you forget about them charging your card). the bottom line is that privacy (or rather the perception of privacy) is their brand so they have to do things that reinforce it in minds of their users.

Dessalines
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16d

They’ve made privacy part of their brand, so they do a lot of stunts like this to get some cred. If they didn’t do these stunts, they’d risk having as bad a reputation on privacy as facebook or microsoft, which they’re actively trying to avoid.

In reality tho they were one of the first to sign up to the NSA’s prism program, and every one of their privacy claims is completely unverifiable; all their services are centralized and closed source.

Jedrax
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16d

“Privacy. That’s iPhone.”

They were talking about their source code btw lol

@sibachian@lemmy.ml
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-16d

honestly, it doesn’t matter if we can’t verify their privacy claims (unless you use their services). what matters is they’re screwing with the big guys money. facebook. spotify. NSO. these are good things to mess with. the fact that they made it their brand, just means there is more to come. that benefits us.

Dessalines
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15d

Apple is one the big guys. They are I think the highest market cap company in the US. I don’t know why many people fall for their “underdog” propo.

@sibachian@lemmy.ml
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-15d

I’ve never heard of anyone thinking of them as an underdog post-iPhone days. Certainly during the Microsoft era, but not now. Regardless,

they’re the only megacorp that isn’t entirely evil from the ground up.

@stopit@lemmy.ml
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I dunno. It’s a publicity stunt. I don’t think they care about privacy as much as they pretend to. Their brand is wrapping up free code in a shiny package and over charging cool kids - I’m sorry if this law suit doesn’t make me think of them as less evil. But, that’s my two cents.

@sibachian@lemmy.ml
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06d

does it matter if it’s a publicity stunt if it helps all of us?

@stopit@lemmy.ml
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16d

no…if it helps, I just don’t think much better of apple is all.

@sibachian@lemmy.ml
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-15d

that’s fair, and in a perfect world, we’d be living under communism. but alas, gotta take the bones we get under capitalism.

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