Original Thread

The mod seems to be a fellow Lemmy user (edit: oh they seem to be a mod of this community) and they’re encouraging Reddit users to migrate to Lemmy, among other open-source software. Given the lack of care about dis/misinformation campaigns on Reddit on the part of the site admins, migrating seems like a good choice. If Reddit ever does take action, it’ll only be when the bad PR outweighs the revenue that these misinformation people bring to Reddit. It’s obvious Reddit doesn’t care about its community, or really the massive role it plays in the current Web. If they’re not going to take responsibility for the social damage they’ve caused so far by harboring and encouraging awful communities, then it’s high time Reddit stopped existing.

If people on /r/linux do take the mod’s advice, then there may be an influx of new users on the site. I think it may be a good idea to encourage them to shop around for different instances on https://join-lemmy.org or make their own, just like the Lemmy devs always encourage. Also, the !linux@lemmy.ml mods should be prepared in case we do get an influx of new users.

  • @marmulak@lemmy.ml
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    193 years ago

    As a Lemmy supporter myself, I am not sure why “inability to control disinformation” is a valid reason for wanting to use this. Like, you do know how open, decentralized platforms work, right? A centralized service run by a company like Reddit can control disinformation if they want. On Lemmy, we can’t control that even if we want. It’s just not how the technology is designed to work.

    There are better reasons to dump Reddit, like tracking and stuff like that.

    • @adrianmalacoda@lemmy.ml
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      133 years ago

      Federation is a halfway point between centralization and purely decentralized/peer-to-peer networking, in which the burden of maintenance and moderation is spread amongst several instances. Instance admins have the ability to control bad behavior on their own instance, and can blocklist other instances that refuse to do so. Under this model, any instance that proves to be particularly problematic will find itself collectively blocklisted by the wider federation.

      • @lorabe@lemmy.ml
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        83 years ago

        This, one instance wont be able to handle a massive amount of daily users, but the fediverse is designed with ahem… federation in mind.

        Mastodon dot social is an example of when there is an over centralized instance, but lemmy ml, although centralizing it’s still relatively small.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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      It’s not quite black and white in terms of disinformation control. While it’s not possible to control misinformation globally, it is possible for individual instances to moderate it and choose what instances they federate with. Since Lemmy isn’t being run for profit there aren’t any ulterior motives for keeping misinformation on the site either which has been a problem with Facebook in particular, and likely Reddit as well to a lesser extent. I think the community can keep itself honest as long as misinformation is seen as a negative by majority of the users.

    • poVoq
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      Yes, but I think the crux of the issue is that Reddit chooses to not do anything against it despite being able to so so. I guess if there was a serious effort but the end-result would be imperfect because of technical reasons (as in the case on Lemmy) then no-one would complain.

  • @lovehumanity1@lemmy.ml
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    93 years ago

    I feel there is an issue here. What steps are lemmy going to take if so called misinformation starts spreading on the platform?

    • Dessalines
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      223 years ago

      At least on this instance, we have a mod team that’s strict about banning covid deniers. If its another instance, we’d de-federate with them.

    • @SloppilyFloss@lemmy.mlOP
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      So far, the mod is really encouraging people who are AGAINST all the misinformation being spread around Reddit to migrate. I don’t know if the people who spread misinformation really want to migrate to another site if A) Reddit is already platforming them nicely and B) they see that the people who are moving to these other sites are people against them. Plus, Lemmy has a reputation for not being friendly to bigots and reactionaries. Just look at previous threads about Lemmy on /r/linux. I guarantee you there will be people complaining about the slur filter and Lemmy’s heavy-handed moderation. The mod mentioned other alternatives, too, some of which may catch the attention of the more “free speech” oriented people.

  • @JairSterre@lemmy.ml
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    Honestly, LBRY is literally inflated with pure anti vaccine and anti covid material. I don’t see how many “Free, Unlimited Speech” sites will survive waves of antivaxxers coming in from reddit when they don’t have a central place anymore.

    The sad truth is that these people are so into their own bubble of “Everything I see is correct, but everything stating otherwise is the government trying to convince me otherwise.”

    EDIT: Also, I think that these people are just looking into Open Source Software as a way for them to spread their stupid, delusional opinions now that “free-use” software is “Owned by big tech that tries to silence us because its the government” or some stupid altright opinion like that. Also, if you’re one of those asshats, please look into the general social media algorithms, human behaviour and the target groups of ivermectin use before you call someone else a sheep or a dumb cow.

  • @wiki_me@lemmy.ml
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    53 years ago

    Could lemmy really do a better job at it? If it will start getting millions of comments everyday how well can it start hunting down every piece of nonsense some dude writes?

    Also I see that some people complain about stuff that is “incorrect” and potentially damaging being written and not getting censored, but is that always bad? when people discuss things and it can help create better decisions (I think there is research on this) and you could get quality feedback saying why you are wrong. I had some pretty crazy stuff argued in front of me IRL and i managed to help someone think about things in a more rational way. They could also just move to posting this stuff on other social media or just IRL.

  • @Danrobi@lemmy.ml
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    I wonder which misinformation are we talking about here? The only misinformation that I know of is from the elected “officials”, the msm’s and the braindead that supports the covidhoax progaganda that they see on TV.

    Btw where’s the flu go? Since the covidhoax showed up the flu disappeared. Disappeared with the logic as well!

    • @k_o_t@lemmy.ml
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      Btw where’s the flu go? Since the covidhoax showed up the flu disappeared. Disappeared with the logic as well!

      hmmm, it’s almost as though if you wear masks and avoid touching and coughing on other people in public, a virus wink wink will disappear, i wonder if we can apply this technique to some other theoretical virus that could rapidly spread throughout the entire planet, because people refuse to make tiny accomodations to save other people’s lives 🤔🤔🤔