When people try to defend denuvo because at best ‘doesn’t change anything’ but what does it add? That company is spending money and dev time to implement something that has 0 value to paying customers and you think that is good?
I still remember AC: Origins. Crackers completely removed Denuvo from the executable and saw a significant boost in performance.
the latest i heard about this was atomic hearts.
a denuvo free version leaked and it performed much better, like upgrade better.
Except that it does change stuff: It can have massive performance impacts on some games, which really sucks, considering these games are 70 bucks
I did say ‘at best’, some rare cases of good implementation benchmarks show almost no performance degradation but those are the best cases and somewhat rare
I’ve literally never seen a defense of denuvo by anyone other than those implementing it lol
The argument is that it delays crackers long enough that some day-one pirates buy the game instead.
It’s impossible to test this experimentally, so we can’t say if it’s true or not. But that’s the claim. I’m sure there’s some truth to it, but some pirates will just wait until it’s cracked or removed.
Most of the people who shill for DRM are such sad and pathetic trolls that they usually get banned from most sensible communities and platforms, there are still a good amount on Reddit but even there they often get buried with downvotes.
True.
I could maybe see an argument being made in favor of having these kinds of security measures for the first month after release to protect sales, since it’s usually the period in which most sales are secured; devs do need a sustainable income after all. But that would also necessitate ignoring the potential performance degradation resulting in a poor first experience for players, and many publishers just leave it in for the lifetime of a game, which is a disaster waiting to happen (as seen here).
Overall, I think piracy is mostly a pricing issue above all else. With AAA titles getting increasingly more expensive and being released in broken states, it’s not surprising that people don’t want to spend $70 on a game that they might end up hating and opt to “demo” the game first. Refund policies can help alleviate the issue, but are hardly a silver bullet, with games inserting tons of fluff at the beginning to ensure you exceed the playtime threshold.
Either deliver the games you promise, or price them according to what’s actually there, and I’m sure the majority of gamers would be content in paying full price. DRM only serves to increase friction for the honest people paying for your games.
The only devs who could maybe benefit from sales protection are precisely the devs who can’t afford to utilize it. Namely indie developers who actually see all the profit directly, instead of having been paid up front.
I get what you’re saying about devs needing income but devs already got paid for making the game. All revenue after goes to executives who had little to nothing to do with making the game and I know some people could argue that if the company doesn’t make money then the devs will be out of a job but that’s a BS propaganda argument. Even when games make record profits teams get let go. Fuck blizzard.
Say the damn name in the title gamerant
It’s persona 5
added to the title
Appreciate that! Mad at gamerant for not doing it but appreciate you nonetheless lol it’s not even in the damn byline under it!
Classic Denuvo.
What is the point of Denuvo? Seeing it takes a day or two, games with Denuvo getting cracked.
It gives a warm fuzzy feeling to executives and investors!
A day or two? I thought Denuvo was still very tricky to crack and only a couple insane people were able to do it.
It’s not necessarily that it’s tricky to crack (it’s certainly not easy, don’t get me wrong), but that there’s no point for a couple reasons that combine:
- To crack a game you have to redo it any time there’s a major release of the game, such as DLC/expansion/major bug fix. The reasons for this are numerous and outside scope. But it takes time.
- Most crackers can only do so many games, so they often wait until most or all major additions are out.
- Denuvo is expensive and operates on a yearly license
- Most game studios only license Denuvo for those first few update cycles when they get the most sales and then remove it themselves because of the cost
That means many don’t even bother trying to crack Denuvo because they just can wait it out. It’s a resource balancing game on both sides.
I think the logic is
That day or 2 is where the biggest sales numbers come from because people are too impatent to wait that long to throw money at a broken buggy microtransaction shit show.
And tbh it doesn’t look like they are particularly wrong
Not any more. No Denuvo game has been cracked since June last year (Etrian Odyssey HD).
Until critical mass starts voting with their fucking money, nothing will change.
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The Switch version is the only way to play P5R pirated currently as far as I’m aware.
