I’ve never had a site so actively push me away like reddit does. I’m really glad that lemmy exists so that I don’t rely too much on it anymore.

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From reading that thread (more of getting pain points from people out there so I can help improve Lemmy), I got the feeling that a decent mobile experience is probably 60% what such folks are looking for. I think Lemmy has a great advantage on the backend, and a mobile experience would be a great way to keep user generated content and comments flowing. I use Apollo for Reddit and I would donate to get that kind of experience for Lemmy. Lemmur is actually really good and I think it can get better with more UI refinements.

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I use Lemmy web client while commenting from Android.

Like right now jajajaja.

their users are vehemently opposed to advertising and any forms of tracking

I think this narrative must be outdated by now. Probably anyone who cared has left the platform. Reddit has managed to capture the casual user base. The old, so called un-monetizable, tech literate crowd has to be long gone. At least the most opinionated ones have definitely left. I suppose there may be a segment who relented and gave in.

The proof is easily observable, the general tech literacy of users has dropped to such shockingly low bar such that there are entire threads where users can’t seem to figure out how to reply to comments. They keep posting root level comments.

What is strange to me is the old culture appears to remain. The user base remains convinced they are among expertise greater than themselves. So everyone thinks everyone around them is smarter than themselves when it is not necessarily so.

I find it an odd characteristic of that platform in which the reputations of the sub-communities precede themselves so it becomes self-fulfilling prophecies. Or worse it becomes increasingly more amplified Flanderizations.

Anyways, I digressed. I find it hard to believe that platform is still hard to monetize. They’ve inserted so many elements tracking, data mining, analytics. On top of that they appear to have secured ever more investment money. They’ve increased site engagement to ever higher levels. It must be, like its sub-communities, that the old reputation of the platform persists. One of a grassroots tech nerd platform and not the one of the most visited sites.

I find an enigma too. It’s one of the most infuriating platforms yet somehow addicting enough that people can’t tear themselves away from it. Speaks to how powerful social media is.

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Most conventional wisdom on why networked people find it hard to exit said network is the network effects, which is amplified by being known by your real name and identity to the other network members/nodes. Seeing as Reddit has a pseudonymous identification system, I wonder to what extent that deflates the exit resistance force. Reputation (say karma or community level creds) may keep people in exploitative networks but I am not well versed in these things to make informed conclusions.

Identity on reddit is tied more strongly to community affiliation than the individual. Identifiable names seems to reserved for the rare few who make their mark on the community in some exemplary way.

Usually what’s happened on the site is people don’t leave the site itself en masse. They leave subreddits or community leaders. They follow the collective they think they’re attached to on to another subreddit. It always seemed to me like a cheap psychological trick by building a large wall around the smaller walls to keep people confined forever.

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building a large wall around the smaller walls

Interesting point. Never saw it from that perspective.

It is important to add, though, that Reddit has a massive reach and there are small gold nuggets of information scattered in corners there, that pull people in.

However, there is a lot of controlling of main subreddits that goes on by US military, police and other officials to create propaganda narratives for them. That is how while debunking their xenophobic or such toxic narratives, r/futurology, r/geopolitics, r/privacy and these mainstream subreddits banned me off their echo chambers. r/degoogle mods attacked me and deleted my guide because I mentioned a Wired report about CIA’s Project Maven and its consequences in Yemen. The American narrative shilling is far too rooted into most subreddits, and is purposefully cloaked in the name of random volunteer moderation.

Reddit should definitely be used in a limited manner, restricted to smaller subreddits, and knowing the political affiliation of moderation team. Twitter also does this, banning people who do not worship NATO, which happened with some people recently.

I used to use red-reader. IIRC it was open-source and it was on F-droid. The UI was just fine.

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